hi all, we do have some troubles with zaptel timing source - we have a setup with 3 telco PRI lines, connected to asterisk digium card 0 - asterisk does some handling - calls are leaving on digium card 1 - going to a siemens hipath - there is some call handling - some of the calls then are going from the hipath over a qsig line to a bosch integral PBX - handling the rest of the calls. To be able to get away from the bosch system - we like to put asterisk (1 port free on each card) in the middle of the path siemens -> bosch - so that it will be siemens -> card 0 asterisk card 1 -> bosch. Currently the Siemens hipath is playing the network side - the bosch is cpe. So the siemens hipath does provide the timing source. With asterisk in the middle i can not take the timing source from the siemens link - because i have already the telco line as timing source. But when starting it in this setup - i will get lots of "timing source auto card 0!" messages. So i think the siemens timing is not in sync. with the telco timing - so mixed up on asterisk with telco line as primary timing will not work when the siemens does try to deliver timing. I have not tried as /etc/zaptel.conf parameter 0 als timing parameter (0 = be master) - but i think it wont work because the siemens wont accept the timing from the asterisk box. Changing configuration of the siemens is not possible. So - here the questions... - is it possible to do what i want to do ? - do you think timing=0 in zaptel.conf will work ? - would it be possible to connect a xorcom 2 PRI channel bank to asterisk to handle the qsig line between the two ? Or will the xorcom then also take the timing from the digum cards - telco lines ? any hints would be nice... many thanks Wolfgang
Hello, I would suggest that you first methodically try every possible combination of zaptel.conf timing settings(each change follwed by a hard reboot of the Asterisk server) to see if there is a magic combination of settings that will work. I don't know if you have the time for that, or if it takes a while for the timing issues to appear, but that is what I would try. If that still doesn't work, we have solved similar issues with older(2 years ago) Digium quad cards by switching to Sangoma hardware that offers more options for forcing timing in it's wanpipe driver software. Although when I posted about this before in another thread the folks from Digium swear that newer Digium cards(with newer firmware) do not have this problem using the newer Dahdi drivers. What version of Zaptel are you using and how old is your Digium card? MATT--- On 4/24/09, Wolfgang Pichler <wpichler at yosd.at> wrote:> hi all, > > we do have some troubles with zaptel timing source - we have a setup > with 3 telco PRI lines, connected to asterisk digium card 0 - asterisk > does some handling - calls are leaving on digium card 1 - going to a > siemens hipath - there is some call handling - some of the calls then > are going from the hipath over a qsig line to a bosch integral PBX - > handling the rest of the calls. > > To be able to get away from the bosch system - we like to put asterisk > (1 port free on each card) in the middle of the path siemens -> bosch - > so that it will be siemens -> card 0 asterisk card 1 -> bosch. > > Currently the Siemens hipath is playing the network side - the bosch is > cpe. So the siemens hipath does provide the timing source. > > With asterisk in the middle i can not take the timing source from the > siemens link - because i have already the telco line as timing source. > But when starting it in this setup - i will get lots of "timing source > auto card 0!" messages. So i think the siemens timing is not in sync. > with the telco timing - so mixed up on asterisk with telco line as > primary timing will not work when the siemens does try to deliver > timing. > > I have not tried as /etc/zaptel.conf parameter 0 als timing parameter (0 > = be master) - but i think it wont work because the siemens wont accept > the timing from the asterisk box. > > Changing configuration of the siemens is not possible. > > So - here the questions... > - is it possible to do what i want to do ? > - do you think timing=0 in zaptel.conf will work ? > - would it be possible to connect a xorcom 2 PRI channel bank to > asterisk to handle the qsig line between the two ? Or will the xorcom > then also take the timing from the digum cards - telco lines ? > > any hints would be nice... > > many thanks > Wolfgang > > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Hello, the issue does occour some seconds after connection the line - but the hard reboot takes some time... The cards are TE420 (4th Gen) - version c01a016a. Zaptel ist 1.4.12.1 The firmware on digium cards can not get flashed - or i am wrong (i have never heard about that) regards, Wolfgang Am Freitag, den 24.04.2009, 06:50 -0400 schrieb Matt Florell:> Hello, > > I would suggest that you first methodically try every possible > combination of zaptel.conf timing settings(each change follwed by a > hard reboot of the Asterisk server) to see if there is a magic > combination of settings that will work. I don't know if you have the > time for that, or if it takes a while for the timing issues to appear, > but that is what I would try. > > If that still doesn't work, we have solved similar issues with older(2 > years ago) Digium quad cards by switching to Sangoma hardware that > offers more options for forcing timing in it's wanpipe driver > software. Although when I posted about this before in another thread > the folks from Digium swear that newer Digium cards(with newer > firmware) do not have this problem using the newer Dahdi drivers. > > What version of Zaptel are you using and how old is your Digium card? > > > MATT--- > > > On 4/24/09, Wolfgang Pichler <wpichler@yosd.at> wrote: > > hi all, > > > > we do have some troubles with zaptel timing source - we have a setup > > with 3 telco PRI lines, connected to asterisk digium card 0 - asterisk > > does some handling - calls are leaving on digium card 1 - going to a > > siemens hipath - there is some call handling - some of the calls then > > are going from the hipath over a qsig line to a bosch integral PBX - > > handling the rest of the calls. > > > > To be able to get away from the bosch system - we like to put asterisk > > (1 port free on each card) in the middle of the path siemens -> bosch - > > so that it will be siemens -> card 0 asterisk card 1 -> bosch. > > > > Currently the Siemens hipath is playing the network side - the bosch is > > cpe. So the siemens hipath does provide the timing source. > > > > With asterisk in the middle i can not take the timing source from the > > siemens link - because i have already the telco line as timing source. > > But when starting it in this setup - i will get lots of "timing source > > auto card 0!" messages. So i think the siemens timing is not in sync. > > with the telco timing - so mixed up on asterisk with telco line as > > primary timing will not work when the siemens does try to deliver > > timing. > > > > I have not tried as /etc/zaptel.conf parameter 0 als timing parameter (0 > > = be master) - but i think it wont work because the siemens wont accept > > the timing from the asterisk box. > > > > Changing configuration of the siemens is not possible. > > > > So - here the questions... > > - is it possible to do what i want to do ? > > - do you think timing=0 in zaptel.conf will work ? > > - would it be possible to connect a xorcom 2 PRI channel bank to > > asterisk to handle the qsig line between the two ? Or will the xorcom > > then also take the timing from the digum cards - telco lines ? > > > > any hints would be nice... > > > > many thanks > > Wolfgang > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > > > asterisk-users mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:09:50PM +0200, Wolfgang Pichler wrote:> hi all, > > we do have some troubles with zaptel timing source - we have a setup > with 3 telco PRI lines, connected to asterisk digium card 0 - asterisk > does some handling - calls are leaving on digium card 1 - going to a > siemens hipath - there is some call handling - some of the calls then > are going from the hipath over a qsig line to a bosch integral PBX - > handling the rest of the calls. > > To be able to get away from the bosch system - we like to put asterisk > (1 port free on each card) in the middle of the path siemens -> bosch - > so that it will be siemens -> card 0 asterisk card 1 -> bosch. > > Currently the Siemens hipath is playing the network side - the bosch is > cpe. So the siemens hipath does provide the timing source. > > With asterisk in the middle i can not take the timing source from the > siemens link - because i have already the telco line as timing source. > But when starting it in this setup - i will get lots of "timing source > auto card 0!" messages. So i think the siemens timing is not in sync. > with the telco timing - so mixed up on asterisk with telco line as > primary timing will not work when the siemens does try to deliver > timing. > > I have not tried as /etc/zaptel.conf parameter 0 als timing parameter (0 > = be master) - but i think it wont work because the siemens wont accept > the timing from the asterisk box. > > Changing configuration of the siemens is not possible. > > So - here the questions... > - is it possible to do what i want to do ? > - do you think timing=0 in zaptel.conf will work ? > - would it be possible to connect a xorcom 2 PRI channel bank to > asterisk to handle the qsig line between the two ? Or will the xorcom > then also take the timing from the digum cards - telco lines ?I missed the part about Xorcom initially and I see nobody answered it yet. Yes, a Xorcom PRI module should be able to take fit here and get timing from the main Zaptel / DAHDI timing source on the system. IIRC, though (some? all?) Digium digital cards have a sync cable option which may be what you need here. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:guest at local.xorcom.com/tzafrir