Hi everybody, I would like to be awareabout what happened to me. Two weeks ago, on a Sunday morning a French guy called me. Ask me to fix some problems with his asterisk. After fixing his problem, he asked more and more, after 10 hours of work I ask him to pay me for the first milestone. However, lucky me that I did not finish, since he never paid me. Be afraid and take your action if some french guy wants to hire you to do some trunking with the Philippines. Hope, that this can help someone. See you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060414/72a423ad/attachment.htm
Well... did you tell him your services where not free and come to a financial arrangement before you started? -----Original Message----- From: Voce Lavoce [mailto:lavoceip@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 3:14 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] My consulting story Hi everybody, I would like to be awareabout what happened to me. Two weeks ago, on a Sunday morning a French guy called me. Ask me to fix some problems with his asterisk. After fixing his problem, he asked more and more, after 10 hours of work I ask him to pay me for the first milestone. However, lucky me that I did not finish, since he never paid me. Be afraid and take your action if some french guy wants to hire you to do some trunking with the Philippines. Hope, that this can help someone. See you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060414/a2bf100c/attachment.htm
Hi Douglas, sure I gave him my hour rate and he agreed. He also promised me to pay a week ago. See you On 4/14/06, Douglas Garstang <dgarstang@oneeighty.com> wrote:> > Well... did you tell him your services where not free and come to a > financial arrangement before you started? > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Voce Lavoce [mailto:lavoceip@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, April 14, 2006 3:14 PM > *To:* asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > *Subject:* [Asterisk-Users] My consulting story > > Hi everybody, > > I would like to be awareabout what happened to me. > Two weeks ago, on a Sunday morning a French guy called me. Ask me to fix > some problems with his asterisk. After fixing his problem, he asked more > and more, after 10 hours of work I ask him to pay me for the first > milestone. However, lucky me that I did not finish, since he never paid me. > Be afraid and take your action if some french guy wants to hire you to do > some trunking with the Philippines. > > > Hope, that this can help someone. > > See you > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060414/c1f9d0fb/attachment.htm
That's the nature of consulting - you have to balance demonstrating competency with solving the problem before being paid. We've had many similar experiences, and we now require prepayment for 2 hrs service before we do any work (or even talk to the client for more than a few minutes). (Despite attempts by potential clients to make the sales call into a problem solving call). We have undoubtedly lost potential opportunities, but our "walk away with free advice" effort has been almost eliminated. The same goes for proposals. I can't count the number of times our proposals have become a do-it-yourselfer's guide to setting things up by themselves. I think it's great if customers want to do it themselves, but don't waste our time! I understand of course that it's tough for users too. There are lots of self proclaimed experts on the list who after hours of billed time have done nothing for their money (we've cleaned up after lots of those folks too). These are usually the same people sending out flame emails about how smart they are and how stupid everyone else is. MD _____ From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Voce Lavoce Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] My consulting story Hi everybody, I would like to be awareabout what happened to me. Two weeks ago, on a Sunday morning a French guy called me. Ask me to fix some problems with his asterisk. After fixing his problem, he asked more and more, after 10 hours of work I ask him to pay me for the first milestone. However, lucky me that I did not finish, since he never paid me. Be afraid and take your action if some french guy wants to hire you to do some trunking with the Philippines. Hope, that this can help someone. See you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060414/80120b44/attachment.htm
Voce Lavoce wrote:> Hi everybody, > > I would like to be awareabout what happened to me. > Two weeks ago, on a Sunday morning a French guy called me. Ask me to > fix some problems with his asterisk. After fixing his problem, he > asked more and more, after 10 hours of work I ask him to pay me for > the first milestone. However, lucky me that I did not finish, since he > never paid me. > Be afraid and take your action if some french guy wants to hire you to > do some trunking with the Philippines. > > > Hope, that this can help someone. > > See youusers >Insist on escrow for that amount of time from someone you do not know.