I'm having a bit of an issue with one of the bargain x100p clones, and I'm not sure what the right approach is. My symptom started as way loud offset delayed echo from voip hardphones -> PSTN through the clone card. I played with and then learned everything I could about echo cancelling, and have managed to bring the echo down to acceptible levels, where it's not too intrusive. In my travels I discovered "ztmonitor", and thought I'd run this. Now, with no call and no activity on the line, the RX side shows a reading of about 1/3 of the bar graph. I figured this is bad (right?) and tweaked my rxgain value (I had never had to touch this before) until ztmonitor only showed one bar. I accomplished this by adding a negative value to the rxgain, I believe it was -12. My question is: Is this the right approach? Should I be tweaking my gains first, and then adjusting echo, or vice versa? Is there something else completely I should be looking at first, or is this the right thing to do? I did have a genuine Digium analog TDM card in there previously, but I had to swap boxes and for some reason the TDM isn't probing (and digium support haven't been too helpful, but that is another story). The TDM didn't need any tweaks; it seemed to have worked out of the box (although I might have been more tolerant of slight echo before, but the clone card was simply intolerable for conversation). Any suggestions or comments welcome. Thanks, J.