CentOS - May 2005 - Re: Demonizing generic Linux issues as Fedora Core-only issues -- WAS: Hi, Bryan

From: Johnny Hughes <mailing-lists at
hughesjr.com>
> This is not really true. We will probably never have everything that FC
> has as added features ... but CentOS-4 has several added features and we
> have been out for only a 3 months (so, not required to wait a year).
Oh, sorry, I should have clarified.

What I meant by "wait a year" was the time from the first .0 or .1
Fedora Core releases that a new version of RHEL/CentOS is based on.

E.g., FC2 came out in May 2004, FC3 in November 2004.
RHEL/CentOS 4 didn't follow until 2005.
> We even have some features (mysql compiled postfix, NX/freeNX,
> and soon MySQL-Administrator / MySQL-Query Builder) that are not
> yet part of FC or FC Extras at all.
Actually, some of this stuff will _never_ be included in FC/RHEL because
of licensing issues with the fact that MySQL is GPL.  This is well
documented in a lot of places.  Red Hat is the only distributor (although
I haven't checked Debian) fully honoring the terms MySQL AB sets on
its GPL releases of MySQL 4, which include not building and redistributing
certain items.

It's one of those things that Red Hat also gets chastized on, and one
of the reasons I don't use DAG (or Livna.ORG) at businesses.  Anything
that has GPL licensing/mixing issues, "only for non-profit use" or
otherwise
is "questionable" use of patents is the reason why I stick with
"pure"
Fedora Core+Extras or Debian.


--
Bryan J. Smith   mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org

On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 10:28 -0500, Bryan J. Smith 
wrote:
> From: Johnny Hughes <mailing-lists at hughesjr.com>
> > This is not really true. We will probably never have everything that
FC
> > has as added features ... but CentOS-4 has several added features and
we
> > have been out for only a 3 months (so, not required to wait a year).
> 
> Oh, sorry, I should have clarified.
> 
> What I meant by "wait a year" was the time from the first .0 or
.1
> Fedora Core releases that a new version of RHEL/CentOS is based on.
> 
> E.g., FC2 came out in May 2004, FC3 in November 2004.
> RHEL/CentOS 4 didn't follow until 2005.
> 
> > We even have some features (mysql compiled postfix, NX/freeNX,
> > and soon MySQL-Administrator / MySQL-Query Builder) that are not
> > yet part of FC or FC Extras at all.
> 
> Actually, some of this stuff will _never_ be included in FC/RHEL because
> of licensing issues with the fact that MySQL is GPL.  This is well
> documented in a lot of places.  Red Hat is the only distributor (although
> I haven't checked Debian) fully honoring the terms MySQL AB sets on
> its GPL releases of MySQL 4, which include not building and redistributing
> certain items.
> 
We would not build and distribute either of these things if they were
not released via the GPL.  The RPMS/SRPMS that we are distributing are
indeed GPL.  We firmly agree with RedHat on this issue (that only GPL
things should be distributed).

> It's one of those things that Red Hat also gets chastized on, and one
> of the reasons I don't use DAG (or Livna.ORG) at businesses.  Anything
> that has GPL licensing/mixing issues, "only for non-profit use"
or otherwise
> is "questionable" use of patents is the reason why I stick with
"pure"
> Fedora Core+Extras or Debian.
CentOS will also not include in our repos anything that is not allowed
to be re-distributed due to patents or US DMCA.

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