I have just migrated to CentOS 4 from fc3. 3 machines involved k. 2 machines w/raid 1 arrays. Installing these were the problems. 1st machine: just a reg install hda for all the sys and a big drive: hdc for all my backups. This install worked fine. the other 2 machines, w/raid 1 drives...grrrrrrrrrr first of these 2: tried to do a reg install...of course, I had to use disk druid to map out the drives etc then just my reg (everything) install. all seemed to go fine but then when it rebooted...omg!!! 1st thing I saw was a fedora screen then like little things here and there kept referring to fedora...I ended up doing the following install choosing hda drive only...did minimal install (worked fine) then install choosing hdc drive only did minimal install (worked fine) then did my reg disk druid mapping raid 1 arrays and then this install finally worked fine. 2nd machine of these 2: Followed the same procedure as the above and when it rebooted, it hung on (I think it said grub 2) :sigh: I then did the same above procedure as above and it finally took! wow...was not a nice stable experience tho! I keep thinking that it would be a good time if the install systems would do a complete zeroing of the hds, if need be, before formatting the file systems...I just used zeroing as an example but it did kinda freak me out seeing fedora stuff on a brand new CentOS 4 install! thx John Rose -- ...you ever notice the look on your neighbors face when you start talking about linux?