asterisk users - Dec 2004 - Dialing out to 2 clients simultaneously

Hi

When I register a SIP or IAX client to asterisk and I dial to it from
another UA then there is no problem at all 

But, when I register two or more clients to the SAME peer (with the same
user/pass) and I call to this peer.. Then only the UA which registered
the last will ring.. Others don't ring... 

What can I do about this?? 

I would like to register for example 10 UA's to the same peer and want
them all to ring at the same time without having to set up different
usernames and passwords for all these ua's and having to make difficult
dialplans

Is this possible? Am I doing something wrong or is this behaviour by
design?

Regards,
Niels

Hello,

this is not possible,

you will have to solve this via the dialplan using parallel ringing or 
queues.

Regards,

Marc

niels@wxn.nl wrote:
> Hi
> 
> When I register a SIP or IAX client to asterisk and I dial to it from
> another UA then there is no problem at all 
> 
> But, when I register two or more clients to the SAME peer (with the same
> user/pass) and I call to this peer.. Then only the UA which registered
> the last will ring.. Others don't ring... 
> 
> What can I do about this?? 
> 
> I would like to register for example 10 UA's to the same peer and want
> them all to ring at the same time without having to set up different
> usernames and passwords for all these ua's and having to make difficult
> dialplans
> 
> Is this possible? Am I doing something wrong or is this behaviour by
> design?
> 
> Regards,
> Niels
> 
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This is not possible... 
>Hi
>
>When I register a SIP or IAX client to asterisk and I dial to it from
>another UA then there is no problem at all 
>
>But, when I register two or more clients to the SAME peer (with the same
>user/pass) and I call to this peer.. Then only the UA which registered
>the last will ring.. Others don't ring... 
>
>What can I do about this?? 
>
>I would like to register for example 10 UA's to the same peer and want
>them all to ring at the same time without having to set up different
>usernames and passwords for all these ua's and having to make difficult
>dialplans
>
>Is this possible? Am I doing something wrong or is this behaviour by
>design?
>
>Regards,
>Niels
>
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Hmmm that's bad... 

This is the last issue I have which makes that I can't get rid of the
SER proxy in front of asterisk.. Want to get rid of it

Are there any plans to change this design?? (that multiple UA's can
register to one peer?)

Niels



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[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Todd
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Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 2:03 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing out to 2 clients simultaneously

This is not possible... 
>Hi
>
>When I register a SIP or IAX client to asterisk and I dial to it from 
>another UA then there is no problem at all
>
>But, when I register two or more clients to the SAME peer (with the 
>same
>user/pass) and I call to this peer.. Then only the UA which registered 
>the last will ring.. Others don't ring...
>
>What can I do about this?? 
>
>I would like to register for example 10 UA's to the same peer and want 
>them all to ring at the same time without having to set up different 
>usernames and passwords for all these ua's and having to make difficult
>dialplans
>
>Is this possible? Am I doing something wrong or is this behaviour by 
>design?
>
>Regards,
>Niels
>
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Because else people will complain that they can't register two
softphones anymore with same user/pass (because only one of the two
softphones can receive the incoming calls) :-)



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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Dialing out to 2 clients simultaneously

<niels@wxn.nl> writes:
> This is the last issue I have which makes that I can't get rid of the 
> SER proxy in front of asterisk.. Want to get rid of it
Out of curiosity, why?

-tih
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SER.... I am not happy with it.. didn't manage to get these below things
functioning:

It's too strict with authentication (user has to set specific
domain/realm) have problems with several types of hardphones authing to
SER

You can't make config changes without having to restart SER

Can't change the from-URI (CLID)

Can change to-URI (add prefix or something) but when you do that ser
behaves strange, in statefull mode not recognizing the packets that
follow (call leg does not exist etc) 

And some other minor things

I just had too many issues with it... 


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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Dialing out to 2 clients simultaneously

<niels@wxn.nl> writes:
> Because else people will complain that they can't register two
> softphones anymore with same user/pass (because only one of the two
> softphones can receive the incoming calls) :-)
That's not what I meant -- that bit was clear.  I was wondering why it
is important to you to get rid of SER.  It is quite common to use SER
in front of Asterisk, and let each do what it does best.

-tih
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asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com wrote:
> You can't make config changes without having to restart SER
If you have it running stateless (is there another way?), there's 
hardly any impact at all. Just a window of a few seconds where a 
call cannot be made.
> Can change to-URI (add prefix or something) but when you do that ser
> behaves strange, in statefull mode not recognizing the packets that
> follow (call leg does not exist etc)
Why are you running in statefull mode?
> And some other minor things
> 
> I just had too many issues with it...
Maybe you're the issue? :-))

A combo of SER and Asterisk is pretty powerfull IMHO.

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I am running it statefull because else I would have to open port 5060 on
my cisco AS5400's to the world, and that's too insecure


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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Dialing out to 2 clients
simultaneously

asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com wrote:
> You can't make config changes without having to restart SER
If you have it running stateless (is there another way?), there's hardly
any impact at all. Just a window of a few seconds where a call cannot be
made.
> Can change to-URI (add prefix or something) but when you do that ser 
> behaves strange, in statefull mode not recognizing the packets that 
> follow (call leg does not exist etc)
Why are you running in statefull mode?
> And some other minor things
> 
> I just had too many issues with it...
Maybe you're the issue? :-))

A combo of SER and Asterisk is pretty powerfull IMHO.

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Van Vollenhovenstraat 3    3016 BE Rotterdam
t: +31 (0)10 2245544    f: +31 (0)10 2245540
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