Hi, somebody from the kolab groupware project recently explained me that the Bus- Factor[1] of around 1 would be one of their primary reasons not to use Dovecot and stick with Cyrus. What do you think about that? Is the bus factor much higher then 1? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor Somehow related: Since the free software world[2] slowly converges towards GIT as the "one and only" VCS, have you thought about a switch? It's much more likely that somebody checks out your code, looks into it and provides patches if the VCS is already installed. [2] Android, Debian, Drupal, Eclipse, Fedora, Gnome, KDE, Linux Kernel, Perl, PHP (ongoing), PostgreSQL, Qt, Ruby on Rails, X.org (freedesktop.org) Best regards, Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
On 11/09/2011 10:29 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:> Somehow related: Since the free software world[2] slowly converges towards GIT > as the "one and only" VCS, have you thought about a switch? It's much more > likely that somebody checks out your code, looks into it and provides patches > if the VCS is already installed. > > [2] Android, Debian, Drupal, Eclipse, Fedora, Gnome, KDE, Linux Kernel, Perl, > PHP (ongoing), PostgreSQL, Qt, Ruby on Rails, X.org (freedesktop.org)<polemic> I don't know where you inferred that, but for sure Debian is not converging to git; we have that VCS as many others and none is the preferred/superior. Please try to balance what you say with actual facts: backing your reasoning with partial data is misleading for others not knowing the env you're talking about. </polemic> Regards, -- Sandro Tosi Product Engineer Shared Hosting Products R&D | Dada.pro eml sandro.tosi at register.it
Am Mittwoch, 9. November 2011, 10:29:37 schrieb Thomas Koch: Hi,> somebody from the kolab groupware project recently explained me that the > Bus- Factor[1] of around 1 would be one of their primary reasons not to > use Dovecot and stick with Cyrus.The problem is: Even it Timo will be hitten by a bus, everybody could stay on the actual Dovecot-version and everything's fine. Cyrus will IMO never reach the level, that Dovecot already has. :-) Peer P.S.: Timo! Don't leave your house. It's too dangerous for you. -- Heinlein Professional Linux Support GmbH Linux: Akademie - Support - Hosting http://www.heinlein-support.de Tel: 030/405051-42 Fax: 030/405051-19 Zwangsangaben lt. ?35a GmbHG: HRB 93818 B / Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg, Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Peer Heinlein -- Sitz: Berlin
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 10:29 +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:> somebody from the kolab groupware project recently explained me that the Bus- > Factor[1] of around 1 would be one of their primary reasons not to use Dovecot > and stick with Cyrus. > > What do you think about that? Is the bus factor much higher then 1?I've created a company for Dovecot support, and if all goes well we should have at least one other coder in not too distant future (anyone want a job? :) Also besides me there's already at least Stephan Bosch who has written Dovecot's Sieve/ManageSieve implementations. I don't know if he'd take care of the whole Dovecot if I happened to die right now, but at least he knows the code pretty well. There are also a few big companies that have some people who have done some Dovecot coding. Also the Bus-Factor of Cyrus doesn't seem to be much higher than 1 to me. AFAIK there's only a single person currently developing it actively (plus I guess a few more not-very-active developers from CMU).> Somehow related: Since the free software world[2] slowly converges towards GIT > as the "one and only" VCS, have you thought about a switch? It's much more > likely that somebody checks out your code, looks into it and provides patches > if the VCS is already installed.I'm not as much against git anymore as I was when I switched to hg, but I don't see much benefits in switching to git either. I highly doubt I'd get even a single patch more if I used git instead of hg. The biggest problem with lack of patches is that few people are interested in coding a mail server. You can see the same with all open source IMAP/SMTP servers (and probably commercial ones too). Nearly always there's only a single guy who has written almost all of it.
On 11/09/2011 10:29 AM Thomas Koch wrote:> Hi, > > somebody from the kolab groupware project recently explained me that the Bus- > Factor[1] of around 1 would be one of their primary reasons not to use Dovecot > and stick with Cyrus.And what is their primary reason for the lame excuse? Too many cooks spoil the broth. just my 2? Regards, Pascal -- The trapper recommends today: fabaceae.1131322 at localdomain.org