First of all I''d like to congratulate the ZFS boot team with the
integration of their work into ON. Great job ! I am sure there
are plenty of people waiting anxiously for this putback.
I''d also like to suggest that the material referenced by HEADS UP
message [1] be made available to non-SWAN folks as well.
[1] http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/
--
Regards,
Cyril
Cyril Plisko wrote:> First of all I''d like to congratulate the ZFS boot team with the > integration of their work into ON. Great job ! I am sure there > are plenty of people waiting anxiously for this putback. > > I''d also like to suggest that the material referenced by HEADS UP > message [1] be made available to non-SWAN folks as well. > > [1] http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/This has already occurred. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/61-65/ maybe you were too quick on the trigger? :-) -- richard
On 3/28/07, Richard Elling <Richard.Elling at sun.com> wrote:> Cyril Plisko wrote: > > First of all I''d like to congratulate the ZFS boot team with the > > integration of their work into ON. Great job ! I am sure there > > are plenty of people waiting anxiously for this putback. > > > > I''d also like to suggest that the material referenced by HEADS UP > > message [1] be made available to non-SWAN folks as well. > > > > [1] http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ > > This has already occurred. > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/61-65/ > > maybe you were too quick on the trigger? :-)Hm, are you trying to make me believe that fs.central is available beyond SWAN ? :) 1. Instructions for Manual set up: http://fs.central/projects/zfsboot/zfsboot_manual_setup.html 2. Instructions for Netisntall set up: http://fs.central/projects/zfsboot/how_to_netinstall_zfsboot> -- richard >-- Regards, Cyril
Richard Elling wrote:> Cyril Plisko wrote: >> First of all I''d like to congratulate the ZFS boot team with the >> integration of their work into ON. Great job ! I am sure there >> are plenty of people waiting anxiously for this putback. >> >> I''d also like to suggest that the material referenced by HEADS UP >> message [1] be made available to non-SWAN folks as well. >> >> [1] http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ > > This has already occurred. > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/61-65/ > > maybe you were too quick on the trigger? :-)The case materials aren''t there. Also, I think Cyril meant the instructions on fs.central mentioned in the flag-day notice.
We will make the manual and netinstall instructions available to non-SWAN folks shortly. Tim Foster also has a script to do the set up, wait for his blog. Lin Richard Elling wrote:> Cyril Plisko wrote: >> First of all I''d like to congratulate the ZFS boot team with the >> integration of their work into ON. Great job ! I am sure there >> are plenty of people waiting anxiously for this putback. >> >> I''d also like to suggest that the material referenced by HEADS UP >> message [1] be made available to non-SWAN folks as well. >> >> [1] http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ > > This has already occurred. > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/61-65/ > > maybe you were too quick on the trigger? :-) > -- richard > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Robert Milkowski
2007-Mar-28 21:26 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Hello Richard, Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 11:14:41 PM, you wrote: RE> Cyril Plisko wrote:>> First of all I''d like to congratulate the ZFS boot team with the >> integration of their work into ON. Great job ! I am sure there >> are plenty of people waiting anxiously for this putback. >> >> I''d also like to suggest that the material referenced by HEADS UP >> message [1] be made available to non-SWAN folks as well. >> >> [1] http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/RE> This has already occurred. RE> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/61-65/ RE> maybe you were too quick on the trigger? :-) I guess he was referring to: The ability to use Solaris Install infrastructure to install a ZFS root filesystem will be available in the future build. In the mean time, you can set up a ZFS root filesystem by using the following methods: 1. Instructions for Manual set up: http://fs.central/projects/zfsboot/zfsboot_manual_setup.html 2. Instructions for Netisntall set up: http://fs.central/projects/zfsboot/how_to_netinstall_zfsboot I think those documents should be publicly available ASAP :) -- Best regards, Robert mailto:rmilkowski at task.gda.pl http://milek.blogspot.com
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-28 21:28 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Sorry, thought I did reply-to-all. On 3/28/07, Malachi de ?lfweald <malachid at gmail.com> wrote:> > I think so. > I can access: > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ > I can not access: > http://www.fs.central/projects/zfsboot/zfsboot_manual_setup.html > > Malachi > > On 3/28/07, Torrey McMahon < tmcmahon2 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Richard Elling wrote: > > > Cyril Plisko wrote: > > >> First of all I''d like to congratulate the ZFS boot team with the > > >> integration of their work into ON. Great job ! I am sure there > > >> are plenty of people waiting anxiously for this putback. > > >> > > >> I''d also like to suggest that the material referenced by HEADS UP > > >> message [1] be made available to non-SWAN folks as well. > > >> > > >> [1] > > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ > > > > > > This has already occurred. > > > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/61-65/ > > > > > > maybe you were too quick on the trigger? :-) > > > > The case materials aren''t there. Also, I think Cyril meant the > > instructions on fs.central mentioned in the flag-day notice. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > zfs-discuss mailing list > > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070328/b6cb03b1/attachment.html>
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-28 21:28 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Should they also be put up on: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/zfsboot/ On 3/28/07, Robert Milkowski <rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> wrote:> > Hello Richard, > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 11:14:41 PM, you wrote: > > RE> Cyril Plisko wrote: > >> First of all I''d like to congratulate the ZFS boot team with the > >> integration of their work into ON. Great job ! I am sure there > >> are plenty of people waiting anxiously for this putback. > >> > >> I''d also like to suggest that the material referenced by HEADS UP > >> message [1] be made available to non-SWAN folks as well. > >> > >> [1] http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ > > RE> This has already occurred. > RE> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/61-65/ > > RE> maybe you were too quick on the trigger? :-) > > I guess he was referring to: > > The ability to use Solaris Install infrastructure to install a ZFS root > filesystem > will be available in the future build. In the mean time, you can set up > a ZFS root > filesystem by using the following methods: > > 1. Instructions for Manual set up: > http://fs.central/projects/zfsboot/zfsboot_manual_setup.html > > 2. Instructions for Netisntall set up: > http://fs.central/projects/zfsboot/how_to_netinstall_zfsboot > > > I think those documents should be publicly available ASAP :) > > > -- > Best regards, > Robert mailto:rmilkowski at task.gda.pl > http://milek.blogspot.com > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070328/1171ab34/attachment.html>
On 3/29/07, Robert Milkowski <rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> wrote:> > 1. Instructions for Manual set up: > http://fs.central/projects/zfsboot/zfsboot_manual_setup.html > > 2. Instructions for Netisntall set up: > http://fs.central/projects/zfsboot/how_to_netinstall_zfsboot > > > I think those documents should be publicly available ASAP :)I assume this will be something like: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/zfsboot/zfsboot_manual_setup.html and http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/zfsboot/how_to_netinstall.html when it is publicly available. Which build is required to try this? Nicholas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070329/454a2095/attachment.html>
Cyril Plisko wrote:> On 3/28/07, Richard Elling <Richard.Elling at sun.com> wrote: >> Cyril Plisko wrote: >> > First of all I''d like to congratulate the ZFS boot team with the >> > integration of their work into ON. Great job ! I am sure there >> > are plenty of people waiting anxiously for this putback. >> > >> > I''d also like to suggest that the material referenced by HEADS UP >> > message [1] be made available to non-SWAN folks as well. >> > >> > [1] http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ >> >> This has already occurred. >> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/61-65/ >> >> maybe you were too quick on the trigger? :-) > > Hm, are you trying to make me believe that fs.central is available > beyond SWAN ? :)Appologies. But you are still quick on the trigger. The source/BFU should be available in next nightly (b62, 20070329), but that build won''t be generally available off-SWAN for a while, in readily-installable form. I do applaud your desire to read the docs first, though :-) -- richard
Hello Nicholas, Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 11:47:18 PM, you wrote: > Which build is required to try this? 62 -- Best regards, Robert mailto:rmilkowski@task.gda.pl http://milek.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-28 22:10 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Could I get your opinion then? I have just downloaded and burnt the b60 ISO. I was just getting ready to follow Tabriz and Tim''s instructions from last year in order to get the ZFS root boot. Seeing the Heads Up, it says that the old mechanism will no longer work. Should I: a) install b60, figure out how to bfu to b62, then try to convert to the zfs root b) wait to install Solaris until b62 comes out c) follow the original instructions from last year (with b60) and then figure out how to switch to the new mechanism when it is public Or am I missing something? Thanks, Malachi On 3/28/07, Robert Milkowski <rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> wrote:> > Hello Nicholas, > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 11:47:18 PM, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > Which build is required to try this? > > > > 62 > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Robert mailto:rmilkowski at task.gda.pl<rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> > > http://milek.blogspot.com > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070328/9b4cd19d/attachment.html>
On 3/29/07, Malachi de ?lfweald <malachid at gmail.com> wrote:> > Could I get your opinion then? I have just downloaded and burnt the b60 > ISO. I was just getting ready to follow Tabriz and Tim''s instructions from > last year in order to get the ZFS root boot. Seeing the Heads Up, it says > that the old mechanism will no longer work. > > Should I: > a) install b60, figure out how to bfu to b62, then try to convert to the > zfs root > b) wait to install Solaris until b62 comes out > c) follow the original instructions from last year (with b60) and then > figure out how to switch to the new mechanism when it is public > > Or am I missing something?I''m in the same position. Just installed b60 last night, doing an upgrade to b62 is probably something I should learn but installing zfsroot will probably save me from having to figure out out about manually creating a ufs root raid1 software mirror. Nicholas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070329/a9325669/attachment.html>
Hello Nicholas, Thursday, March 29, 2007, 12:15:31 AM, you wrote: > On 3/29/07, Malachi de Ælfweald <malachid@gmail.com> wrote: Could I get your opinion then? I have just downloaded and burnt the b60 ISO. I was just getting ready to follow Tabriz and Tim''s instructions from last year in order to get the ZFS root boot. Seeing the Heads Up, it says that the old mechanism will no longer work. Should I: a) install b60, figure out how to bfu to b62, then try to convert to the zfs root b) wait to install Solaris until b62 comes out c) follow the original instructions from last year (with b60) and then figure out how to switch to the new mechanism when it is public Or am I missing something? I''m in the same position. Just installed b60 last night, doing an upgrade to b62 is probably something I should learn but installing zfsroot will probably save me from having to figure out out about manually creating a ufs root raid1 software mirror. Nicholas Well, maybe install b60 with / on UFS, wait for b62 and then upgrade and switch to / on ZFS. As was stated in Heads-Up the procedure to put / on ZFS won''t be automatic in b62 yet. -- Best regards, Robert mailto:rmilkowski@task.gda.pl http://milek.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-28 22:33 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
So would you say use the default layout (most of the extra space going into /export/home)? Malachi On 3/28/07, Robert Milkowski <rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> wrote:> > Hello Nicholas, > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007, 12:15:31 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 3/29/07, Malachi de ?lfweald <malachid at gmail.com> wrote: > > Could I get your opinion then? I have just downloaded and burnt the b60 > ISO. I was just getting ready to follow Tabriz and Tim''s instructions from > last year in order to get the ZFS root boot. Seeing the Heads Up, it says > that the old mechanism will no longer work. > > > Should I: > > a) install b60, figure out how to bfu to b62, then try to convert to the > zfs root > > b) wait to install Solaris until b62 comes out > > c) follow the original instructions from last year (with b60) and then > figure out how to switch to the new mechanism when it is public > > > Or am I missing something? > > > I''m in the same position. Just installed b60 last night, doing an upgrade > to b62 is probably something I should learn but installing zfsroot will > probably save me from having to figure out out about manually creating a ufs > root raid1 software mirror. > > > Nicholas > > > Well, maybe install b60 with / on UFS, wait for b62 and then upgrade and > switch to / on ZFS. > > As was stated in Heads-Up the procedure to put / on ZFS won''t be automatic > in b62 yet. > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Robert mailto:rmilkowski at task.gda.pl<rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> > > http://milek.blogspot.com >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070328/beb8bfe9/attachment.html>
Howdy, This is awesome news that ZFS boot support is available for x86 platforms. Do any of the ZFS developers happen to know when ZFS boot support for SPARC will be available? Thanks, - Ryan -- UNIX Administrator http://prefetch.net
Malachi de ?lfweald wrote:> Should I: > a) install b60, figure out how to bfu to b62, then try to convert to > the zfs root > b) wait to install Solaris until b62 comes out > c) follow the original instructions from last year (with b60) and then > figure out how to switch to the new mechanism when it is public >You can do either (a) or (b). I would avoid (c) if you can just wait a day for bfu nightly or a week or 2 for b62. Lin
We currently have a working prototype for SPARC (via newboot SPARC project). We don''t have a firm date yet, but shouldn''t be too far away :-). Lin Matty wrote:> Howdy, > > This is awesome news that ZFS boot support is available for x86 > platforms. Do any of the ZFS developers happen to know when ZFS boot > support for SPARC will be available? > > Thanks, > - Ryan
Hello Malachi, Thursday, March 29, 2007, 12:33:05 AM, you wrote: > So would you say use the default layout (most of the extra space going into /export/home)? Rather one large / and a swap slice. That way once you switch to ZFS you will be able to create /home dataset and manually move data. -- Best regards, Robert mailto:rmilkowski@task.gda.pl http://milek.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Robert Milkowski
2007-Mar-28 23:07 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Hello Lin,
Thursday, March 29, 2007, 1:01:32 AM, you wrote:
LL> We currently have a working prototype for SPARC (via newboot SPARC
project).
LL> We don''t have a firm date yet, but shouldn''t be too far
away :-).
SPARC newboot project - can you shed more light on it?
Would ZFS support on SPARC need OBP upgrade?
--
Best regards,
Robert mailto:rmilkowski at task.gda.pl
http://milek.blogspot.com
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-28 23:12 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Ok. Will install b60 with large / and a 2xMemory swap... Will wait to specify the mirror until I go to do the ZFS Got the ON instructions up, looking them over to see about BFU''ing Malachi On 3/28/07, Robert Milkowski <rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> wrote:> > Hello Malachi, > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007, 12:33:05 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > So would you say use the default layout (most of the extra space going > into /export/home)? > > > > Rather one large / and a swap slice. > > That way once you switch to ZFS you will be able to create /home dataset > and manually move data. > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Robert mailto:rmilkowski at task.gda.pl<rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> > > http://milek.blogspot.com >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070328/53febb02/attachment.html>
Hello Malachi, Thursday, March 29, 2007, 1:12:41 AM, you wrote: > Ok. Will install b60 with large / and a 2xMemory swap... Will wait to specify the mirror until I go to do the ZFS Got the ON instructions up, looking them over to see about BFU''ing Just one question - why 2xmem for swap? Does your app really need that much? BFU - just for testing I guess. I would rather propose waiting for SXCE b62. -- Best regards, Robert mailto:rmilkowski@task.gda.pl http://milek.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
On 3/29/07, Robert Milkowski <rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> wrote:> BFU - just for testing I guess. I would rather propose waiting for SXCE > b62. >Is there a release date for this? I note that the install iso for b60 seems to only release in the last week. Nicholas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070329/6693ba59/attachment.html>
Robert Milkowski wrote:>Hello Lin, > >Thursday, March 29, 2007, 1:01:32 AM, you wrote: > >LL> We currently have a working prototype for SPARC (via newboot SPARC project). >LL> We don''t have a firm date yet, but shouldn''t be too far away :-). > >SPARC newboot project - can you shed more light on it? > >Would ZFS support on SPARC need OBP upgrade? >No, it will not need an OBP update. Lori> > > >
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-28 23:36 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Why 2x(4G)? Hmmm. Good question. I guess I am just used to doing that for
FreeBSD. I do plan on running multiple Xen domU at the same time... Are you
thinking swap shouldn''t be that big?
Don''t BFU? I''m good with that :) I''d prefer to get to
know Solaris before
screwing it up too much.
BTW: Is there a limit on how big the root partition can be?
Default layout will not work on this system.
Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.NullPointerException
at com.sun.solarisinstall.panels.Table.drawRow(Table.java:1698)
at com.sun.solarisinstall.panels.Table.drawList(Table.java:1783)
at com.sun.solarisinstall.panels.Table.paint(Table.java:1102)
at com.sun.solarisinstall.panels.Table.update(Table.java:1128)
at sun.awt.RepaintArea.updateComponent(RepaintArea.java:239)
at sun.awt.X11.XRepaintArea.updateComponent(XRepaintArea.java:43)
at sun.awt.RepaintArea.paint(RepaintArea.java:216)
at sun.awt.X11.XComponentPeer.handleEvent(XComponentPeer.java:683)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4486)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2116)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:4240)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:599)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(
EventDispatchThread.java:273)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(
EventDispatchThread.java:183)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(
EventDispatchThread.java:173)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:168)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:160)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:121)
Error:
Error: ERROR: System installation failed
Pfinstall failed. Exit stat= java.lang.UNIXProcess at 10ce397 2
ition (c1d0)
- Creating Solaris fdisk partition (c1d0)
- Configuring swap (c1d0s1)
- Configuring / (c1d0s0)
Verifying disk configuration
- ERROR: The ''/'' slice extends beyond HBA cylinder 1023
- WARNING: Change the system''s BIOS default boot device for
hands-off
rebooting
Verifying space allocation
- Total software size: 3476.18 Mbytes
ERROR: System installation failed
On 3/28/07, Robert Milkowski <rmilkowski at task.gda.pl>
wrote:>
> Hello Malachi,
>
>
> Thursday, March 29, 2007, 1:12:41 AM, you wrote:
>
>
> >
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> Ok. Will install b60 with large / and a 2xMemory swap...
>
> Will wait to specify the mirror until I go to do the ZFS
>
> Got the ON instructions up, looking them over to see about BFU''ing
>
>
>
> Just one question - why 2xmem for swap? Does your app really need that
> much?
>
> BFU - just for testing I guess. I would rather propose waiting for SXCE
> b62.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
>
> Robert mailto:rmilkowski at
task.gda.pl<rmilkowski at task.gda.pl>
>
> http://milek.blogspot.com
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Hello Malachi, Thursday, March 29, 2007, 1:36:46 AM, you wrote: > Why 2x(4G)? Hmmm. Good question. I guess I am just used to doing that for FreeBSD. I do plan on running multiple Xen domU at the same time... Are you thinking swap shouldn''t be that big? If you have a disk space to spare it won''t hurt of course. In your case swap sie of 4GB would probably be sufficient (4GB to store system dump kernel pages especially when zfs is used in case of system panic). > Don''t BFU? I''m good with that :) I''d prefer to get to know Solaris before screwing it up too much. No problem :) > BTW: Is there a limit on how big the root partition can be? No, there shouldn''t be. I''m not sure if boot partition is still needed on x86... -- Best regards, Robert mailto:rmilkowski@task.gda.pl http://milek.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-29 00:09 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Comments inline On 3/28/07, Robert Milkowski <rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> wrote:> > Hello Malachi, > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007, 1:36:46 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > Why 2x(4G)? Hmmm. Good question. I guess I am just used to doing that for > FreeBSD. I do plan on running multiple Xen domU at the same time... Are you > thinking swap shouldn''t be that big? > > > If you have a disk space to spare it won''t hurt of course. > > In your case swap sie of 4GB would probably be sufficient (4GB to store > system dump kernel pages especially when zfs is used in case of system > panic). >I have 7x250G drives. 2 are being set aside for mirrored root. Other 5 raidz2 for data. Swap is coming out of the mirrored set.> > > > Don''t BFU? I''m good with that :) I''d prefer to get to know Solaris before > screwing it up too much. > > > No problem :) > > > > > > > BTW: Is there a limit on how big the root partition can be? > > > > No, there shouldn''t be. > > I''m not sure if boot partition is still needed on x86... >According to Solaris 7 release notes, this problems is caused by the ''/'' partition being too big. In this specific case, I was assigning about 242G to ''/'' as I had assigned 8G to Swap. These are Hitachi SATAII drives in Addonics hotswap cages on 2 controllers (using the L1N64 mb)... I''m going to double check the BIOS settings, and try the text installer if that doesn''t work. Malachi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070328/8827e4d2/attachment.html>
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-29 00:29 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
In the BIOS, LBA is set to Auto (with only other option being Disabled) Running in text mode, it says that the ''/'' partition has to be "7993MB or less" Is there any way to get past that? Seems my only other option is the Default layout, with puts all the space into /export/home Malachi On 3/28/07, Malachi de ?lfweald <malachid at gmail.com> wrote:> > Comments inline > > On 3/28/07, Robert Milkowski <rmilkowski at task.gda.pl> wrote: > > > > Hello Malachi, > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007, 1:36:46 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Why 2x(4G)? Hmmm. Good question. I guess I am just used to doing that > > for FreeBSD. I do plan on running multiple Xen domU at the same time... Are > > you thinking swap shouldn''t be that big? > > > > > > If you have a disk space to spare it won''t hurt of course. > > > > In your case swap sie of 4GB would probably be sufficient (4GB to store > > system dump kernel pages especially when zfs is used in case of system > > panic). > > > > I have 7x250G drives. 2 are being set aside for mirrored root. Other 5 > raidz2 for data. Swap is coming out of the mirrored set. > > > > > > > > > Don''t BFU? I''m good with that :) I''d prefer to get to know Solaris > > before screwing it up too much. > > > > > > No problem :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW: Is there a limit on how big the root partition can be? > > > > > > > > No, there shouldn''t be. > > > > I''m not sure if boot partition is still needed on x86... > > > > According to Solaris 7 release notes, this problems is caused by the ''/'' > partition being too big. In this specific case, I was assigning about 242G > to ''/'' as I had assigned 8G to Swap. These are Hitachi SATAII drives in > Addonics hotswap cages on 2 controllers (using the L1N64 mb)... I''m going to > double check the BIOS settings, and try the text installer if that doesn''t > work. > > Malachi > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070328/884fce6a/attachment.html>
On 28/03/07, Malachi de ?lfweald <malachid at gmail.com> wrote:> > In the BIOS, LBA is set to Auto (with only other option being Disabled) > Running in text mode, it says that the ''/'' partition has to be "7993MB or > less" > > Is there any way to get past that? Seems my only other option is the > Default layout, with puts all the space into /export/home > > MalachiThis must be specific to your system somehow. On my x86 box, I have a 16GB / partition... -- "Less is only more where more is no good." --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst binarycrusader at gmail.com - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070328/d9e06643/attachment.html>
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-29 00:56 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Is that on slice 0? Mine is trying to do it on c1d0s0 On 3/28/07, Shawn Walker <binarycrusader at gmail.com> wrote:> > On 28/03/07, Malachi de ?lfweald <malachid at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > In the BIOS, LBA is set to Auto (with only other option being Disabled) > > Running in text mode, it says that the ''/'' partition has to be "7993MB > > or less" > > > > Is there any way to get past that? Seems my only other option is the > > Default layout, with puts all the space into /export/home > > > > Malachi > > > This must be specific to your system somehow. On my x86 box, I have a 16GB > / partition... > > -- > "Less is only more where more is no good." --Frank Lloyd Wright > > Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst > binarycrusader at gmail.com - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070328/b19ccba8/attachment.html>
On 28/03/07, Malachi de ?lfweald <malachid at gmail.com> wrote:> Is that on slice 0? Mine is trying to do it on c1d0s0Yes, c2d0s0 in my case. -- "Less is only more where more is no good." --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst binarycrusader at gmail.com - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-29 04:55 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
It appears to be a bug with the partitioning tool in the installer. I clicked Cylinders and noticed that swap started at cylinder 3 and / started after it. Changed it around to make swap the last bit of the drive, and make / start at cylinder 3, and it is continuing fine with 240GB (or so) ''/'' Malachi On 3/28/07, Shawn Walker <binarycrusader at gmail.com> wrote:> > On 28/03/07, Malachi de ?lfweald <malachid at gmail.com> wrote: > > Is that on slice 0? Mine is trying to do it on c1d0s0 > > Yes, c2d0s0 in my case. > > -- > "Less is only more where more is no good." --Frank Lloyd Wright > > Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst > binarycrusader at gmail.com - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070328/08dd5a0f/attachment.html>
Robert Milkowski wrote:> > Hello Malachi, > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007, 1:36:46 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > > > Why 2x(4G)? Hmmm. Good question. I guess I am just used to doing that > for FreeBSD. I do plan on running multiple Xen domU at the same > time... Are you thinking swap shouldn''t be that big? > >Slightly off topic but... I don''t think increasing the amount of Swap in the Dom0 will effect the DomUs, they need physical memory to work and you can either share with Dom0 using the baloon driver/thread or statically assign it. Are you planning to run Solaris as the Dom0? Chris
Hi all, On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 14:23 -0700, Lin Ling wrote:> We will make the manual and netinstall instructions available to > non-SWAN folks shortly. > > Tim Foster also has a script to do the set up, wait for his blog.Just put that blog post up - you can find it at http://blogs.sun.com/timf/entry/zfs_bootable_datasets_happily_rumbling Let me know if you run into any trouble with the script - I''ll post updates as needed.. cheers, tim> Richard Elling wrote: > > Cyril Plisko wrote: > >> First of all I''d like to congratulate the ZFS boot team with the > >> integration of their work into ON. Great job ! I am sure there > >> are plenty of people waiting anxiously for this putback. > >> > >> I''d also like to suggest that the material referenced by HEADS UP > >> message [1] be made available to non-SWAN folks as well. > >> > >> [1] http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/pages/2007032801/ > > > > This has already occurred. > > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/61-65/ > > > > maybe you were too quick on the trigger? :-) > > -- richard > > _______________________________________________ > > zfs-discuss mailing list > > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss-- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Solaris Engineering Ops http://blogs.sun.com/timf
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-29 13:48 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Yes, running Solaris as Dom0. I will be letting each domain owner choose their own OS for their DomU. I will also be running some unmodified DomU (like JNODE), which is why I bought a system with AMD-V. Malachi On 3/29/07, Chris Beal <Chris.Beal at sun.com> wrote:> > > > Robert Milkowski wrote: > > > > Hello Malachi, > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007, 1:36:46 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why 2x(4G)? Hmmm. Good question. I guess I am just used to doing that > > for FreeBSD. I do plan on running multiple Xen domU at the same > > time... Are you thinking swap shouldn''t be that big? > > > > > Slightly off topic but... > > I don''t think increasing the amount of Swap in the Dom0 will effect the > DomUs, they need physical memory to work and you can either share with > Dom0 using the baloon driver/thread or statically assign it. > > Are you planning to run Solaris as the Dom0? > > Chris >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070329/60c387a4/attachment.html>
>> We will make the manual and netinstall instructions available to >> non-SWAN folks shortly.The manual instruction is available at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsboot-manual/ We are still working on the Netinstall/DVD binary/setup kit. Will send out a notice when it''s available. Thank you for your support and enthusiasm. Lin
Malachi de Ælfweald
2007-Mar-29 22:34 UTC
[zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform
Just to clarify, If we wanted to do this with ZFS as the entire disk (where we currently have UFS), would we copy everything over (the cpio bit) to an uninvolved filesystem, then do the zpool on the disks that used to have UFS (and the one we are mirroring to) -- thus destroying the original UFS partition all together? Thanks, Malachi On 3/29/07, Lin Ling <lin.ling at sun.com> wrote:> > > >> We will make the manual and netinstall instructions available to > >> non-SWAN folks shortly. > The manual instruction is available at > > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsboot-manual/ > > We are still working on the Netinstall/DVD binary/setup kit. > Will send out a notice when it''s available. > > Thank you for your support and enthusiasm. > Lin > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20070329/9468ee01/attachment.html>