Can you set the reply-to parameter to the xen-user list. This would make things easier for a lot of people, and would stop me from replying directly to people. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 26 October 2011 19:22, Andrew Wells <agwells0714@gmail.com> wrote:> Can you set the reply-to parameter to the xen-user list. This would make > things easier for a lot of people, and would stop me from replying directly > to people.This problem can be solved if you click on "Reply to all". You use gmail as well, so you could do that. It must also be said that many people use to include the xen-users@list.xensource.com address in the Bcc field, so that the "reply to all" is inefficient in this case, since that address is not included automatically. -- Flavio _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I could reply all, but for people who do not use gmail, this message would come up twice. Most people would not disagree, and I notice that you didn''t, that the default behavior of "reply" should be to the list, and only if I want to reply to a specific user should I actively change who the message is being sent to. and by doing this behavior, telling someone to go to the list is more effective as it is more likely that the answer did not go offline. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Flavio <fbcyborg@gmail.com> wrote:> On 26 October 2011 19:22, Andrew Wells <agwells0714@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can you set the reply-to parameter to the xen-user list. This would make > > things easier for a lot of people, and would stop me from replying > directly > > to people. > This problem can be solved if you click on "Reply to all". You use > gmail as well, > so you could do that. > > It must also be said that many people use to include the > xen-users@list.xensource.com > address in the Bcc field, so that the "reply to all" is inefficient in > this case, since > that address is not included automatically. > > -- > Flavio >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 26 October 2011 19:51, Andrew Wells <agwells0714@gmail.com> wrote:> I could reply all, but for people who do not use gmail, this message would > come up twice.True, you are right! I always asked to myself if someone receive the emails two times, because it doesn''t happen in gmail actually.> Most people would not disagree, and I notice that you didn''t, that the > default behavior of "reply" should be to the list, and only if I want to > reply to a specific user should I actively change who the message is being > sent to.You are perfectly right. I definitely agree with you, but maybe this behaviour is due to the mailman software that manages the list. Maybe it could be configured to do what you say. I don''t know, because I''ve never deepen that. -- Flavio _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Flavio wrote:> > Most people would not disagree, and I notice that you didn''t, that the >> default behavior of "reply" should be to the list, and only if I want to >> reply to a specific user should I actively change who the message is being >> sent to. >You are perfectly right. I definitely agree with you, but maybe this >behaviour is >due to the mailman software that manages the list. Maybe it could be >configured to do what you say. I don''t know, because I''ve never deepen that.It is an option in Mailman to mangle the reply to header. However, I''m on a number of lists - some with reply-to set, and some without. I don''t find it an issue - I just hit Cmd-Option_R instead of Cmd-R to reply to all. It''s actually more irritating to me when I want to reply personally/off-list to someone on a list that has the reply-to header set - because I have to copy their address, hit reply, and then paste the address in. All said, it **shouldn''t** be any great issue amongst all the other cleaning up* that people should be doing (like trimming what they quote etc (which some people seem averse to doing). Because I''m on a number of lists, I''ve just got into the habit of doing reply to all - even to the extent when I sometimes forget to use a normal reply in non-list email :-/ * In this case, move the list address from cc to to, and remove the other addresses, and trim the quoted material. As to getting two copies of mails. Yes that happens, but I find it no big deal either. Again, on Mailman (I think) there''s an option not to get emails from the list which are also addressed directly to yourself. One thing this list has in common with most lists I''m on ... from time to time there''s a discussion on whether there should be a mangled reply-to header ! -- Simon Hobson Visit http://www.magpiesnestpublishing.co.uk/ for books by acclaimed author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 26.10.2011 19:22, Andrew Wells wrote:> Can you set the reply-to parameter to the xen-user list.No, please do not do so. http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.html People who cannot handle CC:s as good as those using Google Mail can set the option | Avoid duplicate copies of messages? | When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a | list message, you can opt to not receive another copy from | the mailing list. Select Yes to avoid receiving copies from | the mailing list; select No to receive copies. on http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/options/xen-users to Yes. Greetings Paul _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
seriously... this is a linux terminal sadist who is complaining that it takes him more time in a linux terminal user interface application for email if he want to do the rare case of emailing an individual (when in reality the common case on a list is to email the list). As a software engineer, you fit the application to requirements. And you do not make default behaviors opposed to the requirement. And again, I almost just send this to just paul. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Paul Muster <paul@muster.dyndns.info>wrote:> On 26.10.2011 19:22, Andrew Wells wrote: > >> Can you set the reply-to parameter to the xen-user list. >> > > No, please do not do so. > > http://marc.merlins.org/**netrants/listreplyto.html<http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.html> > > People who cannot handle CC:s as good as those using Google Mail can set > the option > > | Avoid duplicate copies of messages? > | When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a > | list message, you can opt to not receive another copy from > | the mailing list. Select Yes to avoid receiving copies from > | the mailing list; select No to receive copies. > > on http://lists.xensource.com/**mailman/options/xen-users<http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/options/xen-users>to Yes. > > > Greetings > > Paul > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/**xen-users<http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users> >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 13:22 -0400, Andrew Wells wrote:> Can you set the reply-to parameter to the xen-user list. This would > make things easier for a lot of people, and would stop me from > replying directly to people.This is a religious issue, in that it will come up sooner or later on every mailing list, regardless of the way that particular list is set. I personally hate reply-to-list, as I have occasionally posted things that were intended as private replies to the entire list, sometimes to great embarrassment. Yes it''s my mistake, but so is it yours to reply privately when you meant to post to the list. I think the consequences of the former are potentially FAR worse than the latter, so I come firmly down on the side of hating reply-to-list. But you will find those who argue just as passionately the other way. --Greg _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Gmail has a nice "Default ''Reply to all''" Lab add-on available from Settings->Labs problem solved! if you use gmail that is. =) Cheers, Andrew On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Greg Woods <woods@ucar.edu> wrote:> > On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 13:22 -0400, Andrew Wells wrote: > > Can you set the reply-to parameter to the xen-user list. This would > > make things easier for a lot of people, and would stop me from > > replying directly to people. > > > This is a religious issue, in that it will come up sooner or later on > every mailing list, regardless of the way that particular list is set. I > personally hate reply-to-list, as I have occasionally posted things that > were intended as private replies to the entire list, sometimes to great > embarrassment. Yes it''s my mistake, but so is it yours to reply > privately when you meant to post to the list. I think the consequences > of the former are potentially FAR worse than the latter, so I come > firmly down on the side of hating reply-to-list. But you will find those > who argue just as passionately the other way. > > --Greg > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 27 October 2011 01:29, Andrew Eross <eross@locatrix.com> wrote:> Gmail has a nice "Default ''Reply to all''" Lab add-on available from > Settings->Labs > problem solved! if you use gmail that is. =)Yes, but as I''ve already told, sometime even if you click on reply all, the list address is not being added to the recipients field, so, you have to manually add it. This is due to people that often include the list address into Bcc instead of Cc. So be aware of that. Bye! -- Flavio _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Flavio wrote:>Yes, but as I''ve already told, sometime even if you click on reply all, >the list address is not being added to the recipients field, so, you have >to manually add it. This is due to people that often include the list address >into Bcc instead of Cc. So be aware of that.I cannot remember ever seeing this problem. I dare say it probably does happens, but I honestly cannot ever remember hitting reply-all and not having the list address present. In the grand scheme of things, it''s not a big deal. I''d rate html (stupid tiny blue text, default for certain M$ clients), top posting, failing to trim quoted material, and taking discussions off-list (ie asking for personal help) without invitation to be far more annoying. -- Simon Hobson Visit http://www.magpiesnestpublishing.co.uk/ for books by acclaimed author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Simon Hobson <linux@thehobsons.co.uk> wrote:> Flavio wrote: > >> Yes, but as I''ve already told, sometime even if you click on reply all, >> the list address is not being added to the recipients field, so, you have >> to manually add it. This is due to people that often include the list >> address >> into Bcc instead of Cc. So be aware of that. > > I cannot remember ever seeing this problem. I dare say it probably does > happens, but I honestly cannot ever remember hitting reply-all and not > having the list address present. > > In the grand scheme of things, it''s not a big deal. I''d rate html (stupid > tiny blue text, default for certain M$ clients), top posting, failing to > trim quoted material, and taking discussions off-list (ie asking for > personal help) without invitation to be far more annoying. > > -- > Simon Hobson > > Visit http://www.magpiesnestpublishing.co.uk/ for books by acclaimed > author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as > Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books. > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >I apologize in advance to everyone for my top posting - It mostly happens due to being in a hurry and not having configured GMail to bottom post...though if you notice, I did take the time _this_ time! :o) Scott _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
If only I had known, I would have not repeated history. http://aperiodic.net/phil/archives/Geekery/list-reply-to.html On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Scott Damron <sdamron@gmail.com> wrote:> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Simon Hobson <linux@thehobsons.co.uk> > wrote: > > Flavio wrote: > > > >> Yes, but as I''ve already told, sometime even if you click on reply all, > >> the list address is not being added to the recipients field, so, you > have > >> to manually add it. This is due to people that often include the list > >> address > >> into Bcc instead of Cc. So be aware of that. > > > > I cannot remember ever seeing this problem. I dare say it probably does > > happens, but I honestly cannot ever remember hitting reply-all and not > > having the list address present. > > > > In the grand scheme of things, it''s not a big deal. I''d rate html (stupid > > tiny blue text, default for certain M$ clients), top posting, failing to > > trim quoted material, and taking discussions off-list (ie asking for > > personal help) without invitation to be far more annoying. > > > > -- > > Simon Hobson > > > > Visit http://www.magpiesnestpublishing.co.uk/ for books by acclaimed > > author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as > > Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > I apologize in advance to everyone for my top posting - It mostly > happens due to being in a hurry and not having configured GMail to > bottom post...though if you notice, I did take the time _this_ time! > :o) > > Scott > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users