Rafael Weingartner
2011-Oct-01 20:22 UTC
[Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations
Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations Hey guys, I am writing about Cloud computing platform. So I need to describe the platforms that are used the most. I described the VMware platform, Microsoft and I would like to describe the Xen Cloud Platform. Then I will compare those platforms and show some real use cases. So, I found some information about the XCP on these links: http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX123996 http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/guest.html#creatingVMs_supported_OS_minimums http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/installation.html#sys_requirements-host I am still missing some information such as: · The maximum amount of disk that a VM can use; · The maximum number of virtual processor per host processor; · The maximum number of virtual machines on a host; · The maximum number of virtual processors on a host; · The maximum amount of storage that XCP can use; · The maximum number of hosts on a XCP cluster · The maximum number of virtual machines on a XCP cluster Does anyone know a document made by Xen or Citrix that has this kind of information? I am also presenting study case of applying those platforms in some companies. I found a lot of study cases on Microsoft and VMware web site about their solutions. In this study cases they show the company, the old IT structure, the challenge, the solutions and the benefits of applying the cloud computing solutions. Do you guys know any study case of Xen Cloud Platform made by a company, Xen or Citrix? _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Todd Deshane
2011-Oct-11 16:52 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Rafael Weingartner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:> Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations > > Hey guys, > > I am writing about Cloud computing platform. So I need to describe the > platforms that are used the most. I described the VMware platform, Microsoft > and I would like to describe the Xen Cloud Platform. Then I will compare > those platforms and show some real use cases. > > So, I found some information about the XCP on these links: > http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX123996 > > http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/guest.html#creatingVMs_supported_OS_minimums > > http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/installation.html#sys_requirements-host > > I am still missing some information such as: > > · The maximum amount of disk that a VM can use; > > · The maximum number of virtual processor per host processor; > > · The maximum number of virtual machines on a host; > > · The maximum number of virtual processors on a host; > > · The maximum amount of storage that XCP can use; > > · The maximum number of hosts on a XCP cluster > > · The maximum number of virtual machines on a XCP cluster > > > > Does anyone know a document made by Xen or Citrix that has this kind of > information?Take a look at: http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/feature.asp?contentID=1681747 http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX131047 Thanks, Todd -- Todd Deshane http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm http://www.xen.org/products/cloudxen.html http://runningxen.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Fajar A. Nugraha
2011-Oct-13 02:02 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Todd Deshane <todd.deshane@xen.org> wrote:> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Rafael Weingartner > <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:>> I am still missing some information such as: >> >> · The maximum amount of disk that a VM can use; >> >> · The maximum number of virtual processor per host processor; >> >> · The maximum number of virtual machines on a host; >> >> · The maximum number of virtual processors on a host; >> >> · The maximum amount of storage that XCP can use; >> >> · The maximum number of hosts on a XCP cluster >> >> · The maximum number of virtual machines on a XCP cluster >> >> >> >> Does anyone know a document made by Xen or Citrix that has this kind of >> information? > > > Take a look at: > http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/feature.asp?contentID=1681747 > http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX131047Oracle VM (which should also be based on Xen) has much higher supported numbers (http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/virtualization/oraclevm/index.html). Which makes one wonder, did Oracle REALLY have a super-version of Xen not used by XCP/XenServer, or is it simply a matter of testing and support commitment. -- Fajar _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Rafael Weingartner
2011-Oct-22 19:43 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations
Thank you Todd, this links helped a lot. -----Original Message----- From: Todd Deshane Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:52 PM To: Rafael Weingartner Cc: Xen-user-list Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Rafael Weingartner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:> Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations > > Hey guys, > > I am writing about Cloud computing platform. So I need to describe the > platforms that are used the most. I described the VMware platform, > Microsoft > and I would like to describe the Xen Cloud Platform. Then I will compare > those platforms and show some real use cases. > > So, I found some information about the XCP on these links: > http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX123996 > > http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/guest.html#creatingVMs_supported_OS_minimums > > http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/installation.html#sys_requirements-host > > I am still missing some information such as: > > · The maximum amount of disk that a VM can use; > > · The maximum number of virtual processor per host processor; > > · The maximum number of virtual machines on a host; > > · The maximum number of virtual processors on a host; > > · The maximum amount of storage that XCP can use; > > · The maximum number of hosts on a XCP cluster > > · The maximum number of virtual machines on a XCP cluster > > > > Does anyone know a document made by Xen or Citrix that has this kind of > information?Take a look at: http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/feature.asp?contentID=1681747 http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX131047 Thanks, Todd -- Todd Deshane http://www.linkedin.com/in/deshantm http://www.xen.org/products/cloudxen.html http://runningxen.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Tom Lobato
2011-Oct-22 19:57 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations
Hi Raphael, It would be nice if you post your work here, if possible, of course. Em 22-10-2011 17:43, Rafael Weingartner escreveu:> Thank you Todd, this links helped a lot. > > > -----Original Message----- From: Todd Deshane > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:52 PM > To: Rafael Weingartner > Cc: Xen-user-list > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Rafael Weingartner > <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote: >> Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations >> >> Hey guys, >> >> I am writing about Cloud computing platform. So I need to describe the >> platforms that are used the most. I described the VMware platform, >> Microsoft >> and I would like to describe the Xen Cloud Platform. Then I will compare >> those platforms and show some real use cases. >> >> So, I found some information about the XCP on these links: >> http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX123996 >> >> http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/guest.html#creatingVMs_supported_OS_minimums >> >> >> http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/installation.html#sys_requirements-host >> >> >> I am still missing some information such as: >> >> · The maximum amount of disk that a VM can use; >> >> · The maximum number of virtual processor per host processor; >> >> · The maximum number of virtual machines on a host; >> >> · The maximum number of virtual processors on a host; >> >> · The maximum amount of storage that XCP can use; >> >> · The maximum number of hosts on a XCP cluster >> >> · The maximum number of virtual machines on a XCP cluster >> >> >> >> Does anyone know a document made by Xen or Citrix that has this kind of >> information? > > > Take a look at: > http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/feature.asp?contentID=1681747 > http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX131047 > > Thanks, > Todd >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Rafael Weingartner
2011-Oct-23 20:37 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations
Hi Tom, Of course I can post my work here. The problem is that the document is written in Portuguese. It is a project for course conclusion. I am proposing a cloud computing platform to virtualize computers and servers. So, in this work I defined physical computer, virtual environment, types of virtualization and cloud computing (what it is, how to use it, deliver model and etc.) Then a described the most used cloud computing platforms (At least the platforms that I know are the most used). The platforms that I am describing are Xen Cloud Platform, VMware, and Microsoft and IBM cloud solutions. Now I am writing about the relationship between Mainframe and cloud computing. I am showing why I think that IBM cloud solution (System Z enterprise, Z/vm and Tivoli) is one of the best way to apply the cloud computing concepts. And Finally I am proposing the use of Mainframe platform to apply the cloud computing concepts to deliver infrastructure as a service. I am not an IBMer, yet. I think the Mainframe (System Z) and its architecture are the best platform to apply the cloud computing concepts -----Original Message----- From: Tom Lobato Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:57 PM To: Rafael Weingartner Cc: Xen-user-list Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations Hi Raphael, It would be nice if you post your work here, if possible, of course. Em 22-10-2011 17:43, Rafael Weingartner escreveu:> Thank you Todd, this links helped a lot. > > > -----Original Message----- From: Todd Deshane > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:52 PM > To: Rafael Weingartner > Cc: Xen-user-list > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Rafael Weingartner > <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote: >> Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations >> >> Hey guys, >> >> I am writing about Cloud computing platform. So I need to describe the >> platforms that are used the most. I described the VMware platform, >> Microsoft >> and I would like to describe the Xen Cloud Platform. Then I will compare >> those platforms and show some real use cases. >> >> So, I found some information about the XCP on these links: >> http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX123996 >> >> http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/guest.html#creatingVMs_supported_OS_minimums >> >> >> http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/installation.html#sys_requirements-host >> >> >> I am still missing some information such as: >> >> · The maximum amount of disk that a VM can use; >> >> · The maximum number of virtual processor per host processor; >> >> · The maximum number of virtual machines on a host; >> >> · The maximum number of virtual processors on a host; >> >> · The maximum amount of storage that XCP can use; >> >> · The maximum number of hosts on a XCP cluster >> >> · The maximum number of virtual machines on a XCP cluster >> >> >> >> Does anyone know a document made by Xen or Citrix that has this kind of >> information? > > > Take a look at: > http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/feature.asp?contentID=1681747 > http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX131047 > > Thanks, > Todd >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Fajar A. Nugraha
2011-Oct-24 00:29 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Rafael Weingartner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:> It is a project for course conclusion.> The platforms that I am describing > are Xen Cloud Platform, VMware, and Microsoft and IBM cloud solutions. > Now I am writing about the relationship between Mainframe and cloud > computing. I am showing why I think that IBM cloud solution (System Z > enterprise, Z/vm and Tivoli) is one of the best way to apply the cloud > computing concepts.You do know that IBM also offers cloud solution based on x86 and power, right? And if I''m not mistaken the x86 solution can also manage Xen hypervisor.> And Finally I am proposing the use of Mainframe platform to apply the cloud > computing concepts to deliver infrastructure as a service. > I am not an IBMer, yet. I think the Mainframe (System Z) and its > architecture are the best platform to apply the cloud computing conceptsis this a complete comparison with real-word use, complete with total cost of ownership calculation, or is it a purely theoretical and technical paper? Saying the mainframe is the best platform for cloud computing is like saying all taxi should be BMW. -- Fajar _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
<admin@xenhive.com>
2011-Oct-24 05:01 UTC
RE: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations
I would not encourage anybody to decide which platform to sue simply based on maximum configuration numbers (such as max memory or max CPUs). It is a misleading way of going about things, and it would likely create the wrong conclusions. For example, if you looked at max memory per guest, when would you really need to roll out a cloud solution with 1TB of RAM per guest? For that matter, how often would you design a solution that needed even 128GB of RAM per guest? If you are planning to virtualize a combination of desktop computers and typical servers, it is extremely unlikely you would ever need to approach any platform''s maximums. There are probably other criteria that should get more weight. Things like cost do factor in regardless of the size and scope of a project. If you turn in your course conclusion and focus only on the max numbers for each platform (while ignoring actual real world concerns), you will likely get the grade you earned. Best of luck with it. -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Rafael Weingartner Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 3:38 PM To: Tom Lobato Cc: Xen-user-list Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations Hi Tom, Of course I can post my work here. The problem is that the document is written in Portuguese. It is a project for course conclusion. I am proposing a cloud computing platform to virtualize computers and servers. So, in this work I defined physical computer, virtual environment, types of virtualization and cloud computing (what it is, how to use it, deliver model and etc.) Then a described the most used cloud computing platforms (At least the platforms that I know are the most used). The platforms that I am describing are Xen Cloud Platform, VMware, and Microsoft and IBM cloud solutions. Now I am writing about the relationship between Mainframe and cloud computing. I am showing why I think that IBM cloud solution (System Z enterprise, Z/vm and Tivoli) is one of the best way to apply the cloud computing concepts. And Finally I am proposing the use of Mainframe platform to apply the cloud computing concepts to deliver infrastructure as a service. I am not an IBMer, yet. I think the Mainframe (System Z) and its architecture are the best platform to apply the cloud computing concepts -----Original Message----- From: Tom Lobato Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:57 PM To: Rafael Weingartner Cc: Xen-user-list Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations Hi Raphael, It would be nice if you post your work here, if possible, of course. Em 22-10-2011 17:43, Rafael Weingartner escreveu:> Thank you Todd, this links helped a lot. > > > -----Original Message----- From: Todd Deshane > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:52 PM > To: Rafael Weingartner > Cc: Xen-user-list > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Rafael Weingartner > <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote: >> Xen Cloud Platform maximum configurations >> >> Hey guys, >> >> I am writing about Cloud computing platform. So I need to describe the >> platforms that are used the most. I described the VMware platform, >> Microsoft >> and I would like to describe the Xen Cloud Platform. Then I will compare >> those platforms and show some real use cases. >> >> So, I found some information about the XCP on these links: >> http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX123996 >> >>http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/guest.html#creatingVMs_ supported_OS_minimums>> >> >>http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0/1.0/en_gb/installation.html#sys_r equirements-host>> >> >> I am still missing some information such as: >> >> . The maximum amount of disk that a VM can use; >> >> . The maximum number of virtual processor per host processor; >> >> . The maximum number of virtual machines on a host; >> >> . The maximum number of virtual processors on a host; >> >> . The maximum amount of storage that XCP can use; >> >> . The maximum number of hosts on a XCP cluster >> >> . The maximum number of virtual machines on a XCP cluster >> >> >> >> Does anyone know a document made by Xen or Citrix that has this kind of >> information? > > > Take a look at: > http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/feature.asp?contentID=1681747 > http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX131047 > > Thanks, > Todd >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users