Mark Williamson
2005-Jun-03 12:55 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] auto adjusting memory (was: system suggestion)
> > It doesn''t happen automatically - you''d have to use the balloon driver > > to shrink one domain and grow another one. A feature we''d like to see > > is "auto-ballooning" where dom0 will adjust domU memory footprints > > based on their current utilisation. This is likely to appear at some > > stage in the future... > > How would you determine actual utilisation when linux likes to eat all > the ram available? > > Would you go by swap file usage, or something else?You could try to monitor the domain''s "activeness" purely externally (e.g. by monitoring CPU usage, disk and net usage, etc.) and then speculatively give the domain more RAM (you could even monitor whether the activity changed, so as to infer whether the extra RAM made a difference). This is probably not the most effective way to go about things, however. A more complete solution would be to add a "domain load" control message, to allow domains to explicitly report various load statistics back to a daemon in domain 0. This daemon would implement policy for how to balloon the guests based on: * reported loads to all guests * configurable minimum / maximum memory limits per domain * (perhaps) configuration details regarding the relative "importance" of domains The daemon could also kill domains if they don''t co-operate with the ballooning process (e.g. take excessively long in returning memory to the system). This sort of flexible memory allocation policy will improve utilisation and may be particularly desirable where all domUs are owned by the same entity (e.g. in a corporate cluster). In a virtual hosting scenario, you can still have static memory allocations to ensure users get the amount of memory they pay for (or you could have the daemon record auto-ballooning, so you can charge by actual memory usage). HTH, Mark _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Andrew Thompson
2005-Jun-03 13:16 UTC
[Xen-users] auto adjusting memory (was: system suggestion)
Mark Williamson wrote: >>IMO, the limiting factor is not CPU but RAM available to a virtual >>machine. it would be nice if there were some way to let memory float >>between virtual machines based on need. In the other hand, it may be >>there already and I just haven''t figured it out. > > It doesn''t happen automatically - you''d have to use the balloon driver > to shrink one domain and grow another one. A feature we''d like to see > is "auto-ballooning" where dom0 will adjust domU memory footprints > based on their current utilisation. This is likely to appear at some > stage in the future... How would you determine actual utilisation when linux likes to eat all the ram available? Would you go by swap file usage, or something else? (Feel free to tell me I''m under-educated about *nix systems, if necessary.) -- Andrew Thompson http://aktzero.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users