Xen devel - Jul 2010 - [Xen-API] XCP Community Call #2

Tomorrow is the XCP Community Call which will be dial-up as well as IRC chat,
information below:

Meeting Date:  July 7, 2010
Time:  2:00 pm UK (London) /9:00 am US EST
Location: IRC #xen-api on Freenode
Dial-In: 1.888.371.8921  Code: 275279

International Toll Free Numbers:
http://btconferencing.com/citrix/globalaccess/

Agenda:

*    Status of XCP 0.5 Testing/Release
*    XCP Support for libvirt

*         Compatibility with XenServer, especially regarding XenCenter, Linux
Guest Support (package including templates and other tools).
*    Cloud Frontends / APIs
o    Eucalyptus / OpenNebula / etc.
*    Open Issues - please email
stephen.spector@xen.org<mailto:stephen.spector@xen.org> with items



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Hi,

I''ve added some updated slides to the wiki page:

http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XCP_Monthly_Meetings

Cheers,
Dave

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Sent: 06 July 2010 15:57
To: xen-api@lists.xensource.com; xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
Subject: [Xen-API] XCP Community Call #2

Tomorrow is the XCP Community Call which will be dial-up as well as IRC chat,
information below:

Meeting Date:  July 7, 2010
Time:  2:00 pm UK (London) /9:00 am US EST
Location: IRC #xen-api on Freenode
Dial-In: 1.888.371.8921  Code: 275279

International Toll Free Numbers:
http://btconferencing.com/citrix/globalaccess/

Agenda:

*    Status of XCP 0.5 Testing/Release
*    XCP Support for libvirt

*         Compatibility with XenServer, especially regarding XenCenter, Linux
Guest Support (package including templates and other tools).
*    Cloud Frontends / APIs
o    Eucalyptus / OpenNebula / etc.
*    Open Issues - please email
stephen.spector@xen.org<mailto:stephen.spector@xen.org> with items



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On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:57:29AM -0400, Stephen Spector
wrote:
>    Tomorrow is the XCP Community Call which will be dial-up as well as IRC
>    chat, information below:
> 
> 
Stephen:

I guess the confcall audio is fine for UK people, 
but it is and has been really horrible for me..

Basicly huge amount of echo, and I can hear like 1/3 of every word, 
so it''s really difficult to hear/understand anything from the
confcall..

I tried muting myself, but that didn''t help much.
Other people were complaining (on irc) about the same problem..

Dunno if there''s anything that could be done to fix it..

-- Pasi
> 
>    Meeting Date:  July 7, 2010
> 
>    Time:  2:00 pm UK (London) /9:00 am US EST
> 
>    Location: IRC #xen-api on Freenode
> 
>    Dial-In: 1.888.371.8921  Code: 275279
> 
> 
> 
>    International Toll Free Numbers:
> 
>    http://btconferencing.com/citrix/globalaccess/
> 
> 
> 
>    Agenda:
> 
> 
> 
>    o    Status of XCP 0.5 Testing/Release
> 
>    o    XCP Support for libvirt
> 
>    ·         Compatibility with XenServer, especially regarding XenCenter,
>    Linux Guest Support (package including templates and other tools).
> 
>    o    Cloud Frontends / APIs
> 
>    o    Eucalyptus / OpenNebula / etc.
> 
>    o    Open Issues - please email [1]stephen.spector@xen.org with items
> 
> 
> 
> References
> 
>    Visible links
>    1. mailto:stephen.spector@xen.org
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On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 04:42:08PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen
wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:57:29AM -0400, Stephen Spector wrote:
> >    Tomorrow is the XCP Community Call which will be dial-up as well as
IRC
> >    chat, information below:
> > 
> > 
> 
> Stephen:
> 
> I guess the confcall audio is fine for UK people, 
> but it is and has been really horrible for me..
> 
> Basicly huge amount of echo, and I can hear like 1/3 of every word, 
> so it''s really difficult to hear/understand anything from the
confcall..
> 
> I tried muting myself, but that didn''t help much.
> Other people were complaining (on irc) about the same problem..
> 
> Dunno if there''s anything that could be done to fix it..
We had an similar experience in Japan.

I wonder if its a microphone issue. I can visualise a bunch of people sitting
around a table, with a conn-call device in the middle, but people not
paying much attention to facing it when they speak.

In any case, I managed to make out perhaps 1/2 of the second half of the
meeting, which was a vast improvement on what I could hear for the first
half.

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> > I guess the confcall audio is fine for UK people,
> > but it is and has been really horrible for me..
> >
> > Basicly huge amount of echo, and I can hear like 1/3 of every word,
> > so it's really difficult to hear/understand anything from the
confcall..
> >
> > I tried muting myself, but that didn't help much.
> > Other people were complaining (on irc) about the same problem..
> >
> > Dunno if there's anything that could be done to fix it..
> 
> We had an similar experience in Japan.
> 
> I wonder if its a microphone issue. I can visualise a bunch of people
> sitting
> around a table, with a conn-call device in the middle, but people not
> paying much attention to facing it when they speak.
> 
> In any case, I managed to make out perhaps 1/2 of the second half of the
> meeting, which was a vast improvement on what I could hear for the first
> half.
Sorry to hear the audio quality was poor. The BT bridge is obviously struggling
with so many people dialled in. Perhaps next time we could try with folk
explicitly muting their line on the bridge when not talking using *6 (repeat to
un-mute) -- this works better than simply muting the handset.

We also need to remind folks who are using speaker phones to get close to the
phone before talking.

Thanks,
Ian



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Can I suggest a Gotomeeting for future meetings?

It would be good for the slides, etc also.



2010/7/9 Ian Pratt <Ian.Pratt@eu.citrix.com>
> > > I guess the confcall audio is fine for UK people,
> > > but it is and has been really horrible for me..
> > >
> > > Basicly huge amount of echo, and I can hear like 1/3 of every
word,
> > > so it''s really difficult to hear/understand anything
from the
> confcall..
> > >
> > > I tried muting myself, but that didn''t help much.
> > > Other people were complaining (on irc) about the same problem..
> > >
> > > Dunno if there''s anything that could be done to fix it..
> >
> > We had an similar experience in Japan.
> >
> > I wonder if its a microphone issue. I can visualise a bunch of people
> > sitting
> > around a table, with a conn-call device in the middle, but people not
> > paying much attention to facing it when they speak.
> >
> > In any case, I managed to make out perhaps 1/2 of the second half of
the
> > meeting, which was a vast improvement on what I could hear for the
first
> > half.
>
> Sorry to hear the audio quality was poor. The BT bridge is obviously
> struggling with so many people dialled in. Perhaps next time we could try
> with folk explicitly muting their line on the bridge when not talking using
> *6 (repeat to un-mute) -- this works better than simply muting the handset.
>
> We also need to remind folks who are using speaker phones to get close to
> the phone before talking.
>
> Thanks,
> Ian
>
>
>
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On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 09:57:14AM -0400, chris wrote:
> is the audio archived anywhere for those who missed the call?
> 
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>
wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 04:42:08PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:57:29AM -0400, Stephen Spector wrote:
> >> >    Tomorrow is the XCP Community Call which will be dial-up
as well as IRC
> >> >    chat, information below:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Stephen:
> >>
> >> I guess the confcall audio is fine for UK people,
> >> but it is and has been really horrible for me..
> >>
> >> Basicly huge amount of echo, and I can hear like 1/3 of every
word,
> >> so it''s really difficult to hear/understand anything from
the confcall..
> >>
> >> I tried muting myself, but that didn''t help much.
> >> Other people were complaining (on irc) about the same problem..
> >>
> >> Dunno if there''s anything that could be done to fix it..
> >
> > We had an similar experience in Japan.
> >
> > I wonder if its a microphone issue. I can visualise a bunch of people
sitting
> > around a table, with a conn-call device in the middle, but people not
> > paying much attention to facing it when they speak.
> >
> > In any case, I managed to make out perhaps 1/2 of the second half of
the
> > meeting, which was a vast improvement on what I could hear for the
first
> > half.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xen-devel mailing list
> > Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
> >
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On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 03:42:43PM +0100, Ian Pratt
wrote:
> > > I guess the confcall audio is fine for UK people,
> > > but it is and has been really horrible for me..
> > >
> > > Basicly huge amount of echo, and I can hear like 1/3 of every
word,
> > > so it''s really difficult to hear/understand anything
from the confcall..
> > >
> > > I tried muting myself, but that didn''t help much.
> > > Other people were complaining (on irc) about the same problem..
> > >
> > > Dunno if there''s anything that could be done to fix it..
> > 
> > We had an similar experience in Japan.
> > 
> > I wonder if its a microphone issue. I can visualise a bunch of people
> > sitting
> > around a table, with a conn-call device in the middle, but people not
> > paying much attention to facing it when they speak.
> > 
> > In any case, I managed to make out perhaps 1/2 of the second half of
the
> > meeting, which was a vast improvement on what I could hear for the
first
> > half.
> 
> Sorry to hear the audio quality was poor. The BT bridge is obviously
struggling with so many people dialled in. Perhaps next time we could try with
folk explicitly muting their line on the bridge when not talking using *6
(repeat to un-mute) -- this works better than simply muting the handset.
Thanks, we''ll try to do that on our end.
> We also need to remind folks who are using speaker phones to get close to
> the phone before talking.

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On 09/07/10 15:56, David Markey wrote:
> Can I suggest a Gotomeeting for future meetings?
AFAICT, GoToMeeting only supports Windows and Mac clients.
I''ve never managed to get it to work with a Linux system.

If we choose to use GoToMeeting, it may make things more
difficult for those wishing to view and partipate in the
meeting with their Linux-based desktop.

Cheers,
Jonathan

* According to www.gotomeeting.com, GoToMeeting has the
following system requirements:

Windows:
> * Internet Explorer® 6.0 or newer, Mozilla® Firefox® 3.0
>   newer (JavaScript™ and Java™ enabled)
> * Windows® 7, Vista, XP, 2003 Server or 2000
Mac:
> * Safari™ 3.0 or newer, Firefox® 3.0 or newer (JavaScript™
>   and Java™ enabled)
> * Mac OS® X 10.4 (Tiger®) or newer
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Everyone has a windows VM running somewhere :)

On 14 July 2010 17:19, Jonathan Knowles
<jonathan.knowles@eu.citrix.com>wrote:
> On 09/07/10 15:56, David Markey wrote:
>
>> Can I suggest a Gotomeeting for future meetings?
>>
>
> AFAICT, GoToMeeting only supports Windows and Mac clients.
> I''ve never managed to get it to work with a Linux system.
>
> If we choose to use GoToMeeting, it may make things more
> difficult for those wishing to view and partipate in the
> meeting with their Linux-based desktop.
>
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
>
> * According to www.gotomeeting.com, GoToMeeting has the
> following system requirements:
>
> Windows:
>
>> * Internet Explorer® 6.0 or newer, Mozilla® Firefox® 3.0
>>  newer (JavaScript™ and Java™ enabled)
>> * Windows® 7, Vista, XP, 2003 Server or 2000
>>
>
> Mac:
>
>> * Safari™ 3.0 or newer, Firefox® 3.0 or newer (JavaScript™
>>  and Java™ enabled)
>> * Mac OS® X 10.4 (Tiger®) or newer
>>
>
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A couple alternatives to GoToMeeting that have better cross platform
(including Linux) support:

http://www.dimdim.com/community/opensource.html
https://www.webhuddle.com/

There are probably others, but I think dimdim is a popular one.

Todd


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:09 PM, David Markey <admin@dmarkey.com>
wrote:
> Everyone has a windows VM running somewhere :)
>
> On 14 July 2010 17:19, Jonathan Knowles
<jonathan.knowles@eu.citrix.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 09/07/10 15:56, David Markey wrote:
>>>
>>> Can I suggest a Gotomeeting for future meetings?
>>
>> AFAICT, GoToMeeting only supports Windows and Mac clients.
>> I''ve never managed to get it to work with a Linux system.
>>
>> If we choose to use GoToMeeting, it may make things more
>> difficult for those wishing to view and partipate in the
>> meeting with their Linux-based desktop.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jonathan
>>
>> * According to www.gotomeeting.com, GoToMeeting has the
>> following system requirements:
>>
>> Windows:
>>>
>>> * Internet Explorer® 6.0 or newer, Mozilla® Firefox® 3.0
>>>  newer (JavaScript™ and Java™ enabled)
>>> * Windows® 7, Vista, XP, 2003 Server or 2000
>>
>> Mac:
>>>
>>> * Safari™ 3.0 or newer, Firefox® 3.0 or newer (JavaScript™
>>>  and Java™ enabled)
>>> * Mac OS® X 10.4 (Tiger®) or newer
>>
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