Alvin Starr
2004-Nov-22 17:03 UTC
[Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
I would have sworn that someone on the list had a way to Xenify a stock RH kernel but I was not able to dig it up on the archives. If this does not exist I am sure it would be a nice addition to Xen to be able to patch and build some kernels that are compatable with some of the popular distributions. -- Alvin Starr || voice: (416)585-9971 Interlink Connectivity || fax: (416)585-9974 alvin@iplink.net || ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
kaz
2004-Nov-22 17:16 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Alvin Starr wrote:> > the popular distributions.Xen has been debianized. See; - Official, Xen-1.2; http://packages.debian.org/xen - Unofficial, Xen-2.0beta; http://www.terrabox.com/debian/ - Unofficial, Xen-2.0.1; not yet but I am preparing ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Brian Wolfe
2004-Nov-22 19:10 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Tomorrow probably. A major project that is putting food on my table is in urgent need of completing today. :) I have multiple bugs to fix in it (aren''t users sooooo helpfull at eating up time reporting bugs that I have to go fix? ;) ) I''ll anounce here once it''s ready. Thanks for everyone that uses the unofficial repo for being patient with me. The plan is to split the repo into dev (2.x) and stable (2.0.x) RSN. Brian On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 02:16 +0900, kaz wrote:> Alvin Starr wrote: > > > > the popular distributions. > > Xen has been debianized. See; > - Official, Xen-1.2; http://packages.debian.org/xen > - Unofficial, Xen-2.0beta; http://www.terrabox.com/debian/ > - Unofficial, Xen-2.0.1; not yet but I am preparing > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel-- ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
kaz
2004-Nov-23 00:10 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Brian Wolfe wrote:> > The plan is to split the repo into dev (2.x) and stable (2.0.x) RSN.>>- Unofficial, Xen-2.0.1; not yet but I am preparingI''ve just finished debianizing Xen-2.0.1 Unfortunately I don''t have any suitable place on the Internet for them. Could you please kindly offer me some place to upload them somewhere at; http://xen.terrabox.com/ or http://www.terrabox.com/ thanks & regards, -- kaz ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Brian Wolfe
2004-Nov-23 00:13 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Are these fresh packagings or updates of mine (or the official debs)? If they are updates of mine I''ll gladly test them out and post them on my repo. (it''ll save me some time in updates. :) ) Brian On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 09:10 +0900, kaz wrote:> Brian Wolfe wrote: > > > > The plan is to split the repo into dev (2.x) and stable (2.0.x) RSN. > > >>- Unofficial, Xen-2.0.1; not yet but I am preparing > > I''ve just finished debianizing Xen-2.0.1 > Unfortunately I don''t have any suitable place on the Internet for them. > Could you please kindly offer me some place to upload them somewhere at; > http://xen.terrabox.com/ or http://www.terrabox.com/ > > thanks & regards, > -- > kaz >-- ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Ian Pratt
2004-Nov-23 00:20 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
> Brian Wolfe wrote: > > > > The plan is to split the repo into dev (2.x) and stable (2.0.x) RSN. > > >>- Unofficial, Xen-2.0.1; not yet but I am preparing > > I''ve just finished debianizing Xen-2.0.1 > Unfortunately I don''t have any suitable place on the Internet for them. > Could you please kindly offer me some place to upload them somewhere at; > http://xen.terrabox.com/ or http://www.terrabox.com/Should we be adding a bunch of .deb targets to our top-level Makefiles, or is it more gory than that? Can the existing buildconfigs stuff be adapted for building custom debian kernels? I presume we''d need a Debian box to actually build the .deb''s, or are there some simple tools we can just add to our FC2 box that does the nightly build? I''d like to see us building .deb''s and .rpm''s nightly -- the current install.sh stuff is far from ideal (though actually seems to work remarkably well on all modern distros). Ian ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
kaz
2004-Nov-23 00:21 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Brian Wolfe wrote:> Are these fresh packagings or updates of mine (or the official debs)? > > If they are updates of mine I''ll gladly test them out and post them on > my repo. (it''ll save me some time in updates. :) )updates of yours. thanks & regards, -- kaz ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
kaz
2004-Nov-23 00:43 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Ian Pratt wrote:> > Should we be adding a bunch of .deb targets to our top-level > Makefiles, or is it more gory than that? Can the existing > buildconfigs stuff be adapted for building custom debian kernels?Currently there are a lot modification between genuine Xen-2.0.1''s Makefile and debiaized version of Makefile. But I believe we can modify it for both .deb and .rpm nightly build.> I presume we''d need a Debian box to actually build the .deb''s, or > are there some simple tools we can just add to our FC2 box that > does the nightly build?I believe we need a debian box to generate debiaized packages nightly.> I''d like to see us building .deb''s and .rpm''s nightly -- the > current install.sh stuff is far from ideal (though actually seems > to work remarkably well on all modern distros).Yes, agreed definitely. If official Xen project to offer deb''s repo, I am very happy to upload Xen 2.0.1 debianized packages to the repo and maintain them til Xen-2.0 official debian packages to be released. thanks & regards, -- kaz ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Ian Pratt
2004-Nov-23 01:01 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
> Ian Pratt wrote: > > > > Should we be adding a bunch of .deb targets to our top-level > > Makefiles, or is it more gory than that? Can the existing > > buildconfigs stuff be adapted for building custom debian kernels? > > Currently there are a lot modification between genuine Xen-2.0.1''s > Makefile and debiaized version of Makefile. > But I believe we can modify it for both .deb and .rpm nightly build.Perhaps you and Brian could post some suggested patches?> > I presume we''d need a Debian box to actually build the .deb''s, or > > are there some simple tools we can just add to our FC2 box that > > does the nightly build? > > I believe we need a debian box to generate debiaized packages nightly.It would certainly be easier if the tools could be made to run standalone, but I guess we could setup a Debian box if need be -- it''ll just be harder to integrate into the nightly build.> > I''d like to see us building .deb''s and .rpm''s nightly -- the > > current install.sh stuff is far from ideal (though actually seems > > to work remarkably well on all modern distros). > > Yes, agreed definitely. > > If official Xen project to offer deb''s repo, I am very happy to upload > Xen 2.0.1 debianized packages to the repo and maintain them til Xen-2.0 > official debian packages to be released.I''d certainly like to see .deb''s and .rpm''s available for download from the main site. I''d prefer to have them generated automatically from the nightly build, otherwise it''ll be a hassle whenever we do a point release (every few weeks). In the mean time, to get them wider testing, if we need to link to them from our downloads page or host them, so be it. Ian ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
kaz
2004-Nov-23 02:09 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Ian Pratt wrote:> > Perhaps you and Brian could post some suggested patches?I can do it. But please understand attaching patches to mailing-list is not recommended. Or am I supposed to attach more than 20 debian/ files to the list? This is the reason why we need repo or some upload space. ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Dariusz Pietrzak
2004-Nov-23 07:46 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
> I believe we need a debian box to generate debiaized packages nightly.debian box = chroot or vserver, with debootstrap creating such chrooted system on redhats is a breeze. -- Dariush Pietrzak, Key fingerprint = 40D0 9FFB 9939 7320 8294 05E0 BCC7 02C4 75CC 50D9 ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
kaz
2004-Nov-23 08:09 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Dariusz Pietrzak wrote:> > debian box = chroot or vserver, with debootstrap creating such chrooted > system on redhats is a breeze.yeah, it will do. debootstrap.rpm is available at; http://trilldev.sourceforge.net/files/remotedeb.html#debootstrap ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Brian Wolfe
2004-Nov-23 16:43 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Well, once I get these patches from kaz I can do a couple more cleanpups and get daily builds running once more. I have plenty of bw at the colo and 6 athlons here to do compiles on individual xen hosts. I just need to hook up the make routine I wrote to the patche anouncements mailing list to automate it. I''d be more than happy to have my debianizing adopted into the official xen sources and help maintain that with you kaz. I can run the xen sources through Adam in all likelyhood once we get 2.0.x cleaned up decently enough to meet the debian package guidelines. I''m certain that others could get xen into other distros. Brian On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 17:09 +0900, kaz wrote:> Dariusz Pietrzak wrote: > > > > debian box = chroot or vserver, with debootstrap creating such chrooted > > system on redhats is a breeze. > > yeah, it will do. debootstrap.rpm is available at; > http://trilldev.sourceforge.net/files/remotedeb.html#debootstrap > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel-- ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Brian Wolfe
2004-Nov-23 16:46 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Toss the patches to me as a unified diff and i''ll apply and update my repo. If you want to work with me on this we can get it cleaned up enough to update the official xen packages using Adam Heath as the package sponsor. (he can''t use the bk client due to personal reasons) On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 11:09 +0900, kaz wrote:> Ian Pratt wrote: > > > > Perhaps you and Brian could post some suggested patches? > > I can do it. > But please understand attaching patches to mailing-list is not recommended. > Or am I supposed to attach more than 20 debian/ files to the list? > This is the reason why we need repo or some upload space. > >-- ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Steven smith
2004-Nov-23 16:55 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
> > > I presume we''d need a Debian box to actually build the .deb''s, or > > > are there some simple tools we can just add to our FC2 box that > > > does the nightly build? > > I believe we need a debian box to generate debiaized packages nightly. > It would certainly be easier if the tools could be made to run > standalone, but I guess we could setup a Debian box if need be -- > it''ll just be harder to integrate into the nightly build.We don''t actually need a Debian box for this. You see, there''s this really cool virtualisation software called Xen, and we might be able to get away with doing it in a domain on top of that. :) Steven.
Rik van Riel
2004-Nov-23 17:46 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Alvin Starr wrote:> I would have sworn that someone on the list had a way to Xenify a stock > RH kernel but I was not able to dig it up on the archives.I''m working on Xen kernel RPMs for Fedora. They should be in rawhide soon... I''ll make an official announcement when I''ve tested them on a few systems and have confirmed that they work, but if they show up unexpectedly before an announcement, feel free to play with them anyway ;) -- "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
JAmes Atwill
2004-Nov-23 18:05 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
On Tue, 2004-23-11 at 12:46 -0500, Rik van Riel wrote:> a few systems and have confirmed that they work, but if they > show up unexpectedly before an announcement, feel free to playWhere would someone look to see if they unexpectedly show up? I''m currently using UsMoLi quite extensively in a number of places and I''m pretty disappointed by the disk i/o performance.. I''ve got FC3 in a few places and could kick the wheels on your RPM. JAmes PS. Apologies to anyone on the list who got email from my spam challenge/response filter from a few weeks back. ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
kaz
2004-Nov-23 18:11 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Brian Wolfe wrote:> Toss the patches to me as a unified diff and i''ll apply and update my > repo. If you want to work with me on this we can get it cleaned up > enough to update the official xen packages using Adam Heath as the > package sponsor. (he can''t use the bk client due to personal reasons)Ok, now i got my web space. But the bandwidth is very narrow so I will let know the URI in a private e-mail to brianw@terrabox.com. Please fetch it. -- kaz ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Brian Wolfe
2004-Nov-23 18:17 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
k, thanks. :) On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 03:11 +0900, kaz wrote:> Brian Wolfe wrote: > > Toss the patches to me as a unified diff and i''ll apply and update my > > repo. If you want to work with me on this we can get it cleaned up > > enough to update the official xen packages using Adam Heath as the > > package sponsor. (he can''t use the bk client due to personal reasons) > > Ok, now i got my web space. > But the bandwidth is very narrow so I will let know the URI in > a private e-mail to brianw@terrabox.com. Please fetch it. > -- > kaz > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Xen-devel mailing list > Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel-- ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Rik van Riel
2004-Nov-25 21:43 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, JAmes Atwill wrote:> On Tue, 2004-23-11 at 12:46 -0500, Rik van Riel wrote: > >> a few systems and have confirmed that they work, but if they >> show up unexpectedly before an announcement, feel free to play > > Where would someone look to see if they unexpectedly show up?Rawhide. -- "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel
Fran
2004-Nov-27 01:46 UTC
Re: [Xen-devel] Is it possible to Xenify a stock Redhat/Fedora kernel.
Has anyone verified that these rpms aren''t comprimised? -Fran kaz wrote:>Dariusz Pietrzak wrote: > > >> debian box = chroot or vserver, with debootstrap creating such chrooted >>system on redhats is a breeze. >> >> > >yeah, it will do. debootstrap.rpm is available at; >http://trilldev.sourceforge.net/files/remotedeb.html#debootstrap > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Xen-devel mailing list >Xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xen-devel > > >