I thought that the list of top RubyForge downloads was interesting: (6,992) Ruby Release Mirror (2,539) Win32 Utils (1,994) FreeRIDE (1,569) RMagick (1,470) AEditor (1,418) wxRuby In looking at this, I discard the top two entries -- the first because that''s Ruby itself, and the second because Win32 Utils is broken up into *lots* of packages that are downloaded separately and this skews the statistics. This means that FreeRIDE is the #1 download, and wxRuby is a not-too-shabby #4 (especially given its current, immature state). Curt PS I still want to do a wxRuby rendering plugin for FreeRIDE, but I can''t realistically see starting on that until next year.