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> 1. Re: Translation of winetools: fr.po (Joachim von Thadden)
> 2. Notes crashing when printing (Dripple)
> 3. Re: Notes crashing when printing (Mike Hearn)
> 4. Re: Proper way of updating winetools? (Klaus-Peter Schrage)
> 5. How to install Visual Basic (SA Tech Department)
> 6. Re: Proper way of updating winetools? (Klaus-Peter Schrage)
> 7. Execution of WineTools with Wine version 20041201 on RedHat 9
(Andy Allen)
> 8. Starfury again (Edward Kolis)
> 9. H&R Block Tax cut with wine (RLLOYDNAVE123@wmconnect.com)
> 10. Re: H&R Block Tax cut with wine (Tony Lambregts)
> 11. Re: H&R Block Tax cut with wine (Sylvain Petreolle)
> 12. Can't get wine to work on amd64 (ben)
>
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>
>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:14:08 +0100
>From: Joachim von Thadden <thadden@web.de>
>To: Brouard Nicolas <nicolas.brouard@libertysurf.fr>
>Cc: wine-users@winehq.org
>Reply-To: thadden@web.de
>Organization: Meine kleine Ich-AG
>Subject: [Wine]Re: Translation of winetools: fr.po
>
>Am Mo, Feb 21, 2005 at 01:09:44 +0100 schrieb Brouard Nicolas:
> > I spent some time during the weekend translating winetools
into
French.
> > Please find attached the corresponding file fr.po .
>
>Hi Nicolas,
>
>thanks for your help. It will get into the next version.
>
>Regards
> Joachim
>--
>"Never touch a running system! Never run a touching system?
> Never run a touchy system!!!"
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 2
>To: wine-users@winehq.com
>From: Dripple <dripple@laposte.net>
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:56:11 +0100
>Subject: [Wine]Notes crashing when printing
>
>Hi,
>
>I recently installed Notes 6.5.3 over a Mandrake 10.1. I'm using
wine
>20041201.
>
>When I try to print, Notes always crash. Which debug trace should I look
>at to see the problem ?
>
>Is it a known problem ?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Dripple
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 3
>To: wine-users@winehq.com
>From: Mike Hearn <mike@navi.cx>
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:30:34 +0000
>Subject: [Wine]Re: Notes crashing when printing
>
>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:56:11 +0100, Dripple wrote:
> > When I try to print, Notes always crash. Which debug trace
should
I look
> > at to see the problem ?
> >
> > Is it a known problem ?
>
>Yes, but I haven't investigated it yet. Notes has bigger problems
right
>now thanks to the WM rewrite.
>
>A backtrace would be most helpful, thanks. When you get the
Wine-Dbg>
>prompt type "bt", or alternatively just copy the trace
when
it's printed.
>It looks like
>
>=> 1) lksjfklsdajfklsdakfjasd
> 2) asdjflksdajfklsdaj
> 3) alskjfklsadjflksd
>
>etc
>
>thanks -mike
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:47:51 +0100
>From: Klaus-Peter Schrage <kpschrage@gmx.de>
>To: thadden@web.de
>CC: wine-users@winehq.org
>Subject: Re: [Wine]Proper way of updating winetools?
>
>Joachim von Thadden wrote:
>
> > are you sure it does not tell you, "Wine has not been
configured for
> > this user yet"? It is complaining about your Wine
setup, not
your
> > WineTools setup. If you have error messages, send them exact
and
> > correct, please. WineTools searches for the availability of
the
> > following program:
> >
> > "$WINEDIR/drive_c/windows/regedit.exe"
> >
> > where $WINEDIR is ~/.wine. If this program, which is a link to
> > /usr/lib/wine/regedit.exe.so (or whereever you installed Wine
to),
is
> > not there than you deleted it, did not use WineTools, or your
setup is
> > not common to WineTools. This might be the reason if you
don't
have
> > drive_c as the C:\ entry. To solve this, create a symlink from
your
> > entry (probably just called c) to drive_c.
>
>Sorry, Joachim, I had to quote from memory because, before writing up
>the message, I had completely reinstalled wine and winetools. I thought
>that the exact phrasing wouldn't be vital to make my point clear.
>
>Nevertheless, I'll try to rephrase in hopefully more precise and
>reproducable terms.
>
>So what I did:
>1. rpm -Uvh wine-20041201-1fc3winehq.i686.rpm
>2. rpm -Uvh winetools-2.1.0-jo.i386.rpm
>3. wt ((now of course as a non-root user))
>4. Goto 'Base setup'
>5. Create a fake Windows drive
>6. True Type Font Arial
>7. DCOM98
>8. Internet Explorer 6.0 SP1 German
>9. Save your wine directory
>10. exit
>11. Manually install further sw, like irfanview ...
>
>All installed software run as expected!
>Now new winetools version 2.11 appears on the scene:
>12. rpm -Uvh winetools-2.1.1-jo.i386.rpm
>
>Installed sw still run als expected.
>
>13. Starting winetools ('winetools') gives:
>'Your config is not the one that comes with recent WineTools.'
>'You should copy WineTools config.211 to .wine/config.'
>'Shall I do that for you?'
>Giving 'Yes' starts WineTools, and that's precisely where my
question
>comes in:
>
>What are the nexts steps to take, and in which order, if I want to keep
>my old (pre-2.11) installation with all installed software?
>
>I have (at least) these choices:
>14a. 'Base setup' first, then 'Restore your Wine
directory'
>14b. 'Restore your Wine directory', then 'Base setup'
>14c. "Base setup' only
>14d. 'Restore your Wine directory' only
>14e. Exit winetools without doing anything further, restore old .wine
>directory manually.
>
>Thanks, Klaus
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:01:12 -0500
>From: SA Tech Department <tech@socceraccess.net>
>Reply-To: tech@socceraccess.net
>Organization: SoccerAccess
>To: wine-users@winehq.org
>Subject: [Wine]How to install Visual Basic
>
>Could anybody please tell me how to install Visua Basic 6 on Wine?
>I have 95% of all the programs that I want running on wine, however this
>one just doesn't works
>
>Regards
>Xavier
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 22:11:58 +0100
>From: Klaus-Peter Schrage <kpschrage@gmx.de>
>To: thadden@web.de
>CC: wine-users@winehq.org
>Subject: Re: [Wine]Proper way of updating winetools?
>
>Joachim von Thadden wrote:
>
> > Am Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 06:47:51PM +0100 schrieb Klaus-Peter
Schrage:
> >
> >>So what I did:
> >>1. rpm -Uvh wine-20041201-1fc3winehq.i686.rpm
> >>2. rpm -Uvh winetools-2.1.0-jo.i386.rpm
> >>3. wt ((now of course as a non-root user))
> >>4. Goto 'Base setup'
> >>5. Create a fake Windows drive
> >>6. True Type Font Arial
> >>7. DCOM98
> >>8. Internet Explorer 6.0 SP1 German
> >>9. Save your wine directory
> >>10. exit
> >>11. Manually install further sw, like irfanview ...
> >>
> >>All installed software run as expected!
> >>Now new winetools version 2.11 appears on the scene:
> >>12. rpm -Uvh winetools-2.1.1-jo.i386.rpm
> >>
> >>Installed sw still run als expected.
> >>
> >>13. Starting winetools ('winetools') gives:
> >>'Your config is not the one that comes with recent
WineTools.'
> >>'You should copy WineTools config.211 to
.wine/config.'
> >>'Shall I do that for you?'
> >>Giving 'Yes' starts WineTools, and that's
precisely where my
question
> >>comes in:
> >>
> >>What are the nexts steps to take, and in which order,
if I want
to keep
> >>my old (pre-2.11) installation with all installed
software?
> >
> >
> > You don't have to do anything. WineTools already changed
to the
new
> > config. Your Base setup is OK, should not be repeated and you
don't have
> > to do anything further. Look into "Install tested
software" and enjoy
> > the new programs you can install with it.
>
>Thanks, that clarifies a lot. So, after having installed a new version
>of winetools, the only thing left to complete the update is to fire up
>wintetools and make it copy the new config (my step 13 mentioned above)
>- or do that manually.
>Klaus
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 7
>From: Andy Allen <andy.allen@virgin.net>
>To: wine-users@winehq.org
>Organization:
>Date: 21 Feb 2005 21:34:14 +0000
>Subject: [Wine]Execution of WineTools with Wine version 20041201 on
RedHat 9
>
>Hi,
>I've installed Wine version 20041201 on RedHat 9 and Winetools
210-jo,
>but when I try to execute Winetools (by typing wt2 on shell (as a user,
>not root), I just get all the error messages below. Any suggestions as
>to what I'm doing wrong, please?
>Best regards,
>Andy
>
>
>[andrew@Atlas2 andrew]$ wt2
>bash: wt2: command not found
>[andrew@Atlas2 andrew]$ cd /usr/local/winetools
>[andrew@Atlas2 winetools]$ wt2
>bash: wt2: command not found
>[andrew@Atlas2 winetools]$ wt
>ls: /home/andrew/.wine/dosdevices/: No such file or directory
>rm: cannot lstat `/home/andrew/.wine/dosdevices/f:': No such file or
>directory
>no wine directory found... trying to create one
>wine: creating configuration directory '/home/andrew/.wine'...
>/usr/bin/wineserver: relocation error: /usr/bin/wineserver: symbol
>epoll_create, version GLIBC_2.3.2 not defined in file libc.so.6 with
>link time reference
>wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating
'/home/andrew/.wine'.
>/usr/local/bin/wt: line 16: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: No such file
>or directory
>Wine wine: creating configuration directory
'/home/andrew/.wine'...
>/usr/bin/wineserver: relocation error: /usr/bin/wineserver: symbol
>epoll_create, version GLIBC_2.3.2 not defined in file libc.so.6 with
>link time reference
>wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating
'/home/andrew/.wine'.
>wine: creating configuration directory '/home/andrew/.wine'...
>/usr/bin/wineserver: relocation error: /usr/bin/wineserver: symbol
>epoll_create, version GLIBC_2.3.2 not defined in file libc.so.6 with
>link time reference
>wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating
'/home/andrew/.wine'.
>no fake drive C: found!
>wine is executed as "wine"
>Parameters are ""
>/usr/local/bin/wt: line 1667: [: too many arguments
>Version of Wine is OK.
>Calls to wine are executed as "wine".
>Config is /home/andrew/.wine/winetools.log.
>CDROM is .
>/usr/local/bin/wt: line 1617: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: No such file
>or directory
>cat: /usr/local/winetools/README.wine:: No such file or directory
>cat: creating: No such file or directory
>cat: configuration: No such file or directory
>cat: directory: No such file or directory
>cat: '/home/andrew/.wine'...: No such file or directory
>cat: /usr/bin/wineserver:: No such file or directory
>cat: relocation: No such file or directory
>cat: error:: No such file or directory
>cat: /usr/bin/wineserver:: No such file or directory
>cat: symbol: No such file or directory
>cat: epoll_create,: No such file or directory
>cat: version: No such file or directory
>cat: GLIBC_2.3.2: No such file or directory
>cat: not: No such file or directory
>cat: defined: No such file or directory
>cat: in: No such file or directory
>cat: file: No such file or directory
>cat: libc.so.6: No such file or directory
>cat: with: No such file or directory
>cat: link: No such file or directory
>cat: time: No such file or directory
>cat: reference: No such file or directory
>cat: wine:: No such file or directory
>cat: wineprefixcreate: No such file or directory
>cat: failed: No such file or directory
>cat: while: No such file or directory
>cat: creating: No such file or directory
>cat: '/home/andrew/.wine'.: No such file or directory
>/usr/local/bin/wt: line 1642: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: No such file
>or directory
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 8
>From: Edward Kolis <koliset@fuse.net>
>To: wine-users@winehq.org
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:47:42 -0500
>Subject: [Wine]Starfury again
>
>Hmm, no one bit on my previous question about Space Empires Starfury...
>all right, this time I've got a little bit of technical info which
might
>be helpful - here's what the terminal prints prior to the game
crashing
>and requiring a kill -9 to get rid of it:
>
>fixme:font:load_VDMX Failed to retrieve vTable
>fixme:ddraw:DirectDrawEnumerateExA no non-display devices supported.
>fixme:ddraw:DirectDrawEnumerateExA no detached secondary devices
>supported.
>fixme:ddraw:Main_DirectDraw_SetCooperativeLevel (0x77c827d8)-
> >(00010024,00000008)
>fixme:ddraw:Main_DirectDraw_SetCooperativeLevel (0x77c827d8)-
> >(00020024,00000017)
>err:ddraw:set_render_state Unhandled dwRenderStateType
>D3DRENDERSTATE_LINEPATTERN (0000000a) value : 00000000 !
>err:ddraw:set_render_state Unhandled dwRenderStateType
>D3DRENDERSTATE_MONOENABLE (0000000b) value : 00000000 !
>err:ddraw:set_render_state Unhandled dwRenderStateType
>D3DRENDERSTATE_ROP2 (0000000c) value : 0000000d !
>err:ddraw:set_render_state Unhandled dwRenderStateType
>D3DRENDERSTATE_PLANEMASK(0000000d) value : ffffffff !
>err:ddraw:set_render_state Unhandled dwRenderStateType
>D3DRENDERSTATE_LASTPIXEL(00000010) value : 00000001 !
>err:ddraw:set_render_state Unhandled dwRenderStateType
>D3DRENDERSTATE_ZVISIBLE (0000001e) value : 00000000 !
>err:ddraw:set_render_state Unhandled dwRenderStateType
>D3DRENDERSTATE_EDGEANTIALIAS (00000028) value : 00000000 !
>err:ddraw:set_render_state Unhandled dwRenderStateType
>D3DRENDERSTATE_RANGEFOGENABLE (00000030) value : 00000000 !
>err:ddraw:set_render_state Unhandled dwRenderStateType
>D3DRENDERSTATE_EXTENTS (0000008a) value : 00000000 !
>err:ddraw:set_render_state Unhandled dwRenderStateType
>D3DRENDERSTATE_VERTEXBLEND (00000097) value : 00000000 !
>fixme:ddraw:Main_DirectDrawClipper_Initialize (0x77c827a8)-
> >(0x77c827e4,0x00000000),stub!
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:ddraw:DIB_DirectDrawSurface_Blt dwFlags DDBLT_WAIT and/or
>DDBLT_ASYNC: can't handle right now.
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:mci:MCI_MapMsgAtoW Message MCI_SETAUDIO needs translation
>fixme:mci:mciSendCommandA message 0873 mapping failed
>This sound card's driver does not support direct access
>The (slower) DirectSound HEL mode will be used instead.
>fixme:mmtime:timeBeginPeriod Stub; we set our timer resolution at
>minimum
>fixme:dsound:IDirectSoundImpl_SetCooperativeLevel level=DSSCL_EXCLUSIVE
>not fully supported
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
>err:xvidmode:ComputeGammaFromRamp inverted or flat gamma ramp
(0->0),
>rejected
>fixme:ddraw:GL_IDirect3DDeviceImpl_7_3T_SetTextureStageState Unhandled
>stage type : UNKNOWN => 00000000
>
>I suspect the problem causing my screen to go grey is that error message
>about the gamma ramp (second last line); it looks like the game's
>contrast is set to zero (since the start and end values are identical).
>
>Any insight on how to fix this, or was the game programmer just lazy and
>forgot to set a gamma ramp for the title screen? :P
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 9
>From: RLLOYDNAVE123@wmconnect.com
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:04:48 EST
>To: wine-users@winehq.org
>Subject: [Wine]H&R Block Tax cut with wine
>
>
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>
>I purchased H&R Block Tax cut Deluxe to do my 2004 taxes.
>
>I decided to give The Feb 2005 version of Wine under Fedora 1 a try
>before rebooting my machine to Windows and actually starting to work on
my
>taxes.
>
>Wine seemed to install Tax Cut with out any problems.
>
>However, when I tried to start Tax Cut 2004 , it complained that
Mozilla did
>not have an
>active X Browser and offered to go on line and get one.
>
>Unfortunately I have a WinModem and dial up connection with WalMart
>that only supports Connection with windows. So that seems to be
>the end of my attempts to do my taxes with Linux for this year.
>
>Perhaps things will work better in 12 months when I try again next
year.
>
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>Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
><HTML><FONT
FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2
PTSIZE=3D10>I purchased H>&amp;R Block Tax cut Deluxe to
do my 2004 taxes.
><BR>
><BR>I decided to give The Feb 2005 version of Wine under
Fedora 1
a try
><BR>before rebooting my machine to Windows and actually
starting
to work on=20>my taxes.
><BR>
><BR>Wine seemed to install Tax Cut with out any problems.
><BR>
><BR>However, when I tried to start Tax Cut 2004
&nbsp;, it
complained that M>ozilla did not have an
><BR>active X Browser and offered to go on line and get
one.
><BR>
><BR>Unfortunately I have a WinModem and dial up connection
with
WalMart
><BR>that &nbsp;only supports Connection with
windows. So that
seems to be
><BR>the end of my attempts to do my taxes with Linux for
this
year.
><BR>
><BR>Perhaps things will work better in 12 months when I
try
&nbsp;again &nbs>p;next
year.</FONT></HTML>
>
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>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:38:28 -0700
>To: RLLOYDNAVE123@wmconnect.com
>CC: wine-users@winehq.org
>From: Tony Lambregts <tony.lambregts@gmail.com>
>Subject: [Wine]Re: H&R Block Tax cut with wine
>
>RLLOYDNAVE123@wmconnect.com wrote:
> > I purchased H&R Block Tax cut Deluxe to do my 2004
taxes.
> >
> > I decided to give The Feb 2005 version of Wine under Fedora 1
a
try
> > before rebooting my machine to Windows and actually starting
to
work on
> > my taxes.
> >
> > Wine seemed to install Tax Cut with out any problems.
> >
> > However, when I tried to start Tax Cut 2004 , it complained
that
> > Mozilla did not have an
> > active X Browser and offered to go on line and get one.
> >
> > Unfortunately I have a WinModem and dial up connection with
WalMart
> > that only supports Connection with windows. So that seems to
be
> > the end of my attempts to do my taxes with Linux for this
year.
> >
> > Perhaps things will work better in 12 months when I try again
next year.
>
>Well I doubt that it will change much unless you get another (real)
>modem or you current one is suppored through linux, since wine does not
>provide that support, nor are ther plans to do so.
>
>To see if there is a chance to get you modem working with linux check
>out this site. (slow development but still active)
>
>http://start.at/modem
>
>
>--
>
>Tony Lambregts
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:05:30 +0100 (CET)
>From: Sylvain Petreolle <spetreolle@yahoo.fr>
>Reply-To: spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net
>Subject: Re: [Wine]H&R Block Tax cut with wine
>To: wine-users@winehq.org
>
> --- RLLOYDNAVE123@wmconnect.com a écrit :
> > I purchased H&R Block Tax cut Deluxe to do my 2004
taxes.
> >
> > I decided to give The Feb 2005 version of Wine under Fedora 1
a
try
> > before rebooting my machine to Windows and actually starting
to
work on my
> > taxes.
> >
> > Wine seemed to install Tax Cut with out any problems.
> >
> > However, when I tried to start Tax Cut 2004 , it complained
that
Mozilla did
> > not have an
> > active X Browser and offered to go on line and get one.
>
>Tax Cut could only want to install the Mozilla ActiveX Control to gain
the ability
>to display its html data in embedded forms.
>(Some reports and statements applications like Intuit Quicken already
make use of it)
>
>Since it runs ok in Wine, you could try to install it by yourself.
>Its downloadable from http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/control.htm
>
>====>Usurp (aka Sylvain Petreolle)
>humans are like computers,
>yesterday the BIOS was all
>- today its just a word
>
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>
>Message: 12
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:25:10 -0500
>From: ben <bencohen2@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: ben <bencohen2@gmail.com>
>To: wine-users@winehq.org
>Subject: [Wine]Can't get wine to work on amd64
>
>My system:
>AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Winchester core
>Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
>1 GB Corsair DDR-400
>Nvidia 6600GT 128MB
>(2) 74 GB SATA WD Raptors
>
>I'm running gentoo with the 2.6.10-gentoo-r7 kernel. My root
partition
>is on a linux software raid.
>
>Problem:
>After many hours of research I learned that I can't compile wine on
my
>64-bit platform, i have to download a precompiled binary for a 32-bit
>architecture and it will work. Well I downloaded
>"wine-20050111-1fc3winehq.i386.rpm" and installed it
and when
I run
>wine as a regular user, I get this error message:
>
>bash-2.05b$ wine
>wine: creating configuration directory '/home/webster/.wine'...
>wine: Unhandled exception (thread 0009), starting debugger...
>err:seh:EXC_DefaultHandling Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0
>addr 0x55cdff50
>wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating
'/home/webster/.wine'.
>bash-2.05b$ wineserver: could not save registry branch to
>/home/webster/.wine-HYxf2i/system.reg : No such file or directory
>wineserver: could not save registry branch to
>/home/webster/.wine-HYxf2i/userdef.reg : No such file or directory
>wineserver: could not save registry branch to
>/home/webster/.wine-HYxf2i/user.reg : No such file or directory
>
>I also have fedora core 3 on this system (on another software raid)
>and i installed the same rpm and got the same exact error message. I
>read someone created a 32-bit ebuild that is a miracle solution
>although I couldn't properly uninstall my rpm because i got this
error
>message:
>
>/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.58306: line 2: /sbin/chkconfig: No such file or
directory
>error: %preun(wine-20050111-1fc3winehq) scriptlet failed, exit status
127
>
>I installed that ebuild anyway and it didn't fix any problems.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can get wine up and running?
>
>Thank you for your time,
>ben
>
>
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