win32utils devel - Mar 2004 - namespace for File, Process?

Hi all,

A user on IRC expressed an opinion that I''ve been considering myself. 
That
is, for the Win32::File and Win32::Process classes, simply extend the 
existing File and Process classes, i.e. don''t put them under the Win32 
namespace.  That way, you don''t have to explicitly state 
Win32::File.hidden?, for example.  You could just do File.hidden?.

I guess for Process, that would mean putting fork under Kernel.

What do you think?

Regards,

Dan

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Dan,
> namespace.  That way, you don''t have to explicitly state 
> Win32::File.hidden?, for example.  You could just do File.hidden?.
But then it will not work on non-Windows platform, right ? I do not see
see any version of File.hidden? anywhere, unless it is on my blind spot.
 
> I guess for Process, that would mean putting fork under Kernel.
Now that I agree.
> What do you think?
 I think we will have to convince Matz.

-- Shashank

Hi,
> Hi all,
>
> A user on IRC expressed an opinion that I''ve been considering
myself.
That
> is, for the Win32::File and Win32::Process classes, simply extend the
> existing File and Process classes, i.e. don''t put them under the
Win32
> namespace.  That way, you don''t have to explicitly state
> Win32::File.hidden?, for example.  You could just do File.hidden?.
>
> I guess for Process, that would mean putting fork under Kernel.
>
> What do you think?
For fundamental classes like File and Process classes, It is better to
request standard Ruby distribution include extension libraries for Win32
File and Process.
And I''d like to see Ruby can handle native Win32 thread function with
Ruby
thread method also.

Regards,

Park Heesob

>Dan,
>>namespace.  That way, you don''t have to explicitly state 
>>Win32::File.hidden?, for example.  You could just do File.hidden?.
>But then it will not work on non-Windows platform, right ? I do not see
>see any version of File.hidden? anywhere, unless it is on my blind spot.
No, you misunderstand.  I''m not suggesting that we modify core Ruby. 
Just
that we extend the File and Process/Kernel class.  e.g. if I do class File; 
def foo; end; end; I haven''t replaced the File class just extended it. 
So,
I just mean dropping the Win32 module/namespace in the case of File and 
Process (or any class that we extend).

Regards,

Dan

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> No, you misunderstand.  I''m not suggesting that we modify core
Ruby.  Just
> that we extend the File and Process/Kernel class.  e.g. if I do class
File;
> def foo; end; end; I haven''t replaced the File class just extended
it.
So,
> I just mean dropping the Win32 module/namespace in the case of File and
> Process (or any class that we extend).
Oh, I see ! So that I can simply do:

#----------------------
require "win32utils"

p File.hidden?("hideme.txt") #=> true
#----------------------

Correct ?

That is a great idea ...

-- Shashank

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> 
> 
> Hi,
> <snip>
> And I''d like 
> to see Ruby can handle native Win32 thread function with Ruby 
> thread method also.
Won''t happen until the Ruby interpreter is thread safe.  That means
we''re waiting until Ruby 2.0. :(

Dan