Hello folks, A couple people are visibly not grokking some of the finer points of proper mailing list use, mostly using 'reply' instead of 'new message'. Thus it's time for... the FAQ. In this case FAQ =Frequently Answered Questions. We answer 'em before you ask 'em. They're not rules, they're just the way it works. 1) When posting to the list, don't just ignore subject lines, or reply to messages that have nothing to do with what you're about to say. Sophisticated mail readers (like the ones many of the core developers use) 'thread' conversations, grouping messages by replies. Quite a few of us have our mail readers set up to totally ignore threads we've previously marked as uninteresting. Landing an unrelated message in the middle of a totally different conversation which many of the core folk have marked as 'uninteresting' will just get you ignored. We'll never see your mail. We get hundereds of messages a day, and list mail simply has to take a low priority through batch handling like that. BTW, just editing the subject line is not enough to keep your message out of a thread if you hit 'Reply'. A seperate header is embedded in the message called 'In-Reply-To'. At a guess, the pretty graphical mail readers don't let you edit it, or even tell you that it's there. If you want to start a new subject or conversation, hit 'New Message' please. Not 'Reply'. 2) Do not send subscribe/unsubscribe messages to the list; they'll be filtered and ignored by the mail list system and no one will ever see them. Follow the instructions listed in the footer of every message. Eg, to unsubscribe, send a message with the single word 'unsubscribe' in the body to <listname>-request@xiph.org. If you have trouble, a polite request to postmaster@xiph.org will get your request to a human. 3) The list software does not allow email in HTML format; it is intentionally configured to drop all HTML formatted software on the ground with no error and no warning. The primary motivation for this is to block mailspam; this trick alone filters 99% of the mailspam that would otherwise flood the lists. Outlook and Exchange, by default, tend to be configured to send everything in marked up, HTML-like format. This markup is useless to most of us, takes up space, confuses the web archiving software and generally does nobody any good. Oh... and it will cause your mail to get dropped; if you're confused why your posts aren't showing up on the list, this is probably the reason. Please turn this formatting 'feature' off when posting to xiph.org lists. That's all I can think of for now. Happy posting. Monty <p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.