As a matter of interest I tested the quality at -1 which has a nominal bitrate of 45 but the 2 tracks I encoded both averaged out to exactly 48kb/s. I noticed the lowpass defaulted to 15.1khz like -q0 so that may need addressing at some stage. I used a lowpass of 13khz which overall sounded better with less artifacts. I found it sharper & clearer than a lame encoded mp3 encoded with -V9 which averaged 99kb/s. Lame defaults to a 13khz lowpass at this quality. It was very acceptable & listenable (if thats a word) on my cheap desktop speakers which have plenty of bass & midrange but not too much top-end. For desktop listening it would save a ton of space using only 360k per minute. This is great! Any reports from others testing the lower sampling frequencies? Ross. <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.