Hi: I have been curious as to Vorbis' performance at -q0 for some time now. When RC3 came out, I used a track I have here and encoded it at q0 at 11.025, 16, 22.05, 32 and 44.1khz, both in stereo and in mono. After having heard the great sound of -q 0 in stereo, I thought I'd see what bitrate I got with -q0 in mono. I was disturbed to discover that the resulting file was 9.5kbps higher than its RC3 equivalent (48.752356 vs. 39.257918). Admittedly, it sounded better, but so did the stereo one and -q0 in stereo was pretty much the same size as it was in RC3. I also notice that ogginfo says that the nominal bitrate for -q0 in CVS is 48.001000 kb/s, whereas it gives -q0 for RC3 as 32.007000. The newly tuned 32khz modes give similar results to this, compaired to the untuned modes of RC3. My question is, is this intentional? I would have thought that the encoder would have tended to hang around in the range of 2/3 of the rate of stereo, as it has done for RC3. Just wondering if the quality settings are wrong or whether some kind of change has been made. Geoff. <p> -- Geoff Shang <gshang@uq.net.au> ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html <p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.