Okay, since that last entry of mine was on the order of, "Here's another useless almost-funny reply from Mr. Kerezman, please laugh politely now," here's a piece of info that the Wintel users might find useful. http://www.cdex.n3.net CDEX is coming along nicely as a ripping/encoding package for Windows. I very happily use the latest beta, whatever that happens to be at the time, to do my ripping during those times when 'grip' gives me fits on the Linux box. (This poor rig has a Promise Ultra-100 IDE controller, and every so often Very Bad Things happen. But that's another story for another day.) CDEX betas recently went to RC2, a cdparanoia ripping library, and various other niceties. Try it and draw your own conclusions, of course. I think I'll email the author of CDEX now and warn him about the -q flag in RC3... =) -- Karel P Kerezman, IS Admin Entercom Portland Oxymoron: Rather Direct. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: part Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 233 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/vorbis/attachments/20020102/a0e7dc95/part.pgp