Randolph Carter
2001-Sep-14 23:00 UTC
[vorbis] [Fwd: Interview With Huffman Aviation Casts Doubt on Official Story]
emperors1000@aol.com wrote:> > This is being sent on behalf of emperors1000@aol.com > as part of the mailing list that you joined. > List: emperorsclothes > URL: http://www.emperors-clothes.com > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > URL for this article: http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/dekkers.htm > > Join Emperor's Clothes email list at http://emperors-clothes.com/feedback.htm. Receive about one article/day. > > www.tenc.net [Emperor's Clothes] > > ======================================> Interview With Huffman Aviation Casts Doubt on Official Story > [Posted 13 September 2001] > ======================================> > Interview conducted by Jared Israel around noon, 13 September, 2001. > > Israel: Hello > > Dekkers: Hello > > Israel: Hi, is this Huffman Aviation? > > Dekkers: Sorry. I was taking an outside line. Yes this is Huffman Aviation. > > Israel: You're probably getting 3 million calls, right? > > Dekkers: No, five million. > > Israel: Ok, I'm going to keep you on for ten seconds. I just have a very quick question to ask you. Emperors-Clothes, we're a news Website. Do you train people on the actual planes that were used in that horrible thing in NY? > > Dekkers: No sir. We train small single engine, small multi-engine airplanes. And they are good for four people; that's it. That's not turbine. Total different systems. Not capable to fly anything like that. I have learned yesterday from the media - you are talking to Rudi Dekkers. > > Israel: Could you spell your name? > > Dekkers: R-u-d-i D-e-k-k-e-r-s. > > Israel: And you're talking to Jared Israel at Emperor's Clothes which is at www.tenc.net and is very skeptical about the story because it didn't make sense. > > Dekkers: No, what happened was after the training they had here they went to another flight school in Popana Beach and they had jet training there, simulator or big planes, but there is where they conducted the training to do what they had to do. > > Israel: Are you sure of that? > > Dekkers: Yeah we have heard that from several directions. > > Israel: But even so, with the training you would get would you trust somebody to get in a plane and fly? > > Dekkers: No, I fly 20 years in these kind of small planes and I would not do for a million dollars to take over that cockpit. > > Israel: So it's still questionable, isn't it? > > Dekkers: Oh, you bet. (Phone rings.) One second...(Off line) Larry, Larry keep on the line I have 30 seconds and then I am with you...(Back on line) 30 seconds. > > Israel: Yes. You're very helpful. Your point is the more sophisticated training with the other place but that might give you a certificate but would you trust somebody to do the kind of sophisticated thing they did? > > Dekkers: No they didn't have the certificate to do that. They only had only a multi-commercial license but not for commercial airlines. That is a different license. But these people didn't need a license, so that's another question. > > Israel: But wouldn't what they did require sophistication? > > Dekkers: Yeah, they want to that school, I have heard the name, they call it a jet center for simulator training, there is no way - this is not my opinion. My opinion is I don't think it is possible. I have spoken to many captains from the airlines and they say there is no way what the planes did they could have done that. They changed altitude. They changed speed. They changed direction. They had to know about the equipment to do what they had to do and there is no way that could have been done. > > *** > > Further Reading: > > : > > 1) Rick Rozoff takes a critical look at Washington's response to Tuesday's tragedies in 'Bush's Press Conference: Into the Abyss' at http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/rozoff/abyss.htm > > 2) While Washington points to Osama bin Laden as "suspect # 1" in yesterday's horrific violence, the truth is not being told to the American people: 'Washington Created Osama bin Laden' by Jared Israel can be read at http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/madein.htm > > 3) If one looks carefully, one can find in the Western media evidence that bin Laden has been involved - on the U.S.-backed side - in Kosovo, Bosnia and now Macedonia. Can be read at http://emperors-clothes.com/news/binl.htm > > 4) Bin Laden was propelled into power as part of the U.S. drive to create an Islamist terrorist movement to crush the former Soviet Union. See, the truly amazing account from the 'Washington Post,' 'Washington's Backing of Afghan Terrorists: Deliberate Policy.' at http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/anatomy.htm > > 5) Head of Russian Navy says official scenario couldn't have happened. See 'Russian Navy Chief Says Official 9-11 Story Impossible' at http://emperors-clothes.com/news/navy.htm > > URGENT APPEAL! > > TO THOSE WHO HAVE DONATED TO OUR FUNDRAISING DRIVE - THANK YOU! > > BUT EMPEROR'S CLOTHES STILL NEEDS HELP! > > The George Soros foundation does not fund Emperor's Clothes. Our only source of money is people like you. All contributions help, big and small. Right now, we're in serious need of financial help from our friends. > > If everyone who cares about Emperor's Clothes chips in, we'll be out of trouble in no time. > > Any help you can send will be greatly appreciated! $20, $50, $100 or $1000 - it will all help. > > You can make a credit card donation by going to our secure server at http://emperors-clothes.com/howyour.html#donate > > You can mail a check to Emperor's Clothes, P.O. Box 610-321, Newton, MA 02461-0321. (USA) > > Or make a donation over the phone. Call us at (U.S.) 617 916-1705 any time and we will take your credit card information over the phone. > > Note: If you mail a donation or make one by secure server, please let us know by email at emperors1000@aol.com, just to make sure we get it. Thanks! > > Thank you for reading Emperor's Clothes! > > www.emperors-clothes.com or > www.tenc.net > [Emperor's Clothes] > > > Click to be removed: > mythos@zxmail.com&list=emperorsclothes">http://MessageBot.com/r.cgi?email=mythos@zxmail.com&list=emperorsclothes</A> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Powered by http://MessageBot.com/ > Get Cool Images at http://www.flamingtext.com/mb.html--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Patrick Masters
2001-Sep-16 17:29 UTC
[vorbis] [Fwd: Interview With Huffman Aviation Casts Doubt on Official Story]
QUIT!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! I am tired of this shit. -----Original Message----- From: owner-vorbis@xiph.org [mailto:owner-vorbis@xiph.org]On Behalf Of Randolph Carter Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 2:01 AM To: vorbis@xiph.org Subject: [vorbis] [Fwd: Interview With Huffman Aviation Casts Doubt on Official Story] emperors1000@aol.com wrote:> > This is being sent on behalf of emperors1000@aol.com > as part of the mailing list that you joined. > List: emperorsclothes > URL: http://www.emperors-clothes.com > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > URL for this article: http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/dekkers.htm > > Join Emperor's Clothes email list athttp://emperors-clothes.com/feedback.htm. Receive about one article/day.> > www.tenc.net [Emperor's Clothes] > > ======================================> Interview With Huffman Aviation Casts Doubt on Official Story > [Posted 13 September 2001] > ======================================> > Interview conducted by Jared Israel around noon, 13 September, 2001. > > Israel: Hello > > Dekkers: Hello > > Israel: Hi, is this Huffman Aviation? > > Dekkers: Sorry. I was taking an outside line. Yes this is HuffmanAviation.> > Israel: You're probably getting 3 million calls, right? > > Dekkers: No, five million. > > Israel: Ok, I'm going to keep you on for ten seconds. I just have a veryquick question to ask you. Emperors-Clothes, we're a news Website. Do you train people on the actual planes that were used in that horrible thing in NY?> > Dekkers: No sir. We train small single engine, small multi-engineairplanes. And they are good for four people; that's it. That's not turbine. Total different systems. Not capable to fly anything like that. I have learned yesterday from the media - you are talking to Rudi Dekkers.> > Israel: Could you spell your name? > > Dekkers: R-u-d-i D-e-k-k-e-r-s. > > Israel: And you're talking to Jared Israel at Emperor's Clothes which isat www.tenc.net and is very skeptical about the story because it didn't make sense.> > Dekkers: No, what happened was after the training they had here they wentto another flight school in Popana Beach and they had jet training there, simulator or big planes, but there is where they conducted the training to do what they had to do.> > Israel: Are you sure of that? > > Dekkers: Yeah we have heard that from several directions. > > Israel: But even so, with the training you would get would you trustsomebody to get in a plane and fly?> > Dekkers: No, I fly 20 years in these kind of small planes and I would notdo for a million dollars to take over that cockpit.> > Israel: So it's still questionable, isn't it? > > Dekkers: Oh, you bet. (Phone rings.) One second...(Off line) Larry, Larrykeep on the line I have 30 seconds and then I am with you...(Back on line) 30 seconds.> > Israel: Yes. You're very helpful. Your point is the more sophisticatedtraining with the other place but that might give you a certificate but would you trust somebody to do the kind of sophisticated thing they did?> > Dekkers: No they didn't have the certificate to do that. They only hadonly a multi-commercial license but not for commercial airlines. That is a different license. But these people didn't need a license, so that's another question.> > Israel: But wouldn't what they did require sophistication? > > Dekkers: Yeah, they want to that school, I have heard the name, they callit a jet center for simulator training, there is no way - this is not my opinion. My opinion is I don't think it is possible. I have spoken to many captains from the airlines and they say there is no way what the planes did they could have done that. They changed altitude. They changed speed. They changed direction. They had to know about the equipment to do what they had to do and there is no way that could have been done.> > *** > > Further Reading: > > : > > 1) Rick Rozoff takes a critical look at Washington's response to Tuesday'stragedies in 'Bush's Press Conference: Into the Abyss' at http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/rozoff/abyss.htm> > 2) While Washington points to Osama bin Laden as "suspect # 1" inyesterday's horrific violence, the truth is not being told to the American people: 'Washington Created Osama bin Laden' by Jared Israel can be read at http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/madein.htm> > 3) If one looks carefully, one can find in the Western media evidence thatbin Laden has been involved - on the U.S.-backed side - in Kosovo, Bosnia and now Macedonia. Can be read at http://emperors-clothes.com/news/binl.htm> > 4) Bin Laden was propelled into power as part of the U.S. drive to createan Islamist terrorist movement to crush the former Soviet Union. See, the truly amazing account from the 'Washington Post,' 'Washington's Backing of Afghan Terrorists: Deliberate Policy.' at http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/anatomy.htm> > 5) Head of Russian Navy says official scenario couldn't have happened. See'Russian Navy Chief Says Official 9-11 Story Impossible' at http://emperors-clothes.com/news/navy.htm> > URGENT APPEAL! > > TO THOSE WHO HAVE DONATED TO OUR FUNDRAISING DRIVE - THANK YOU! > > BUT EMPEROR'S CLOTHES STILL NEEDS HELP! > > The George Soros foundation does not fund Emperor's Clothes. Our onlysource of money is people like you. All contributions help, big and small. Right now, we're in serious need of financial help from our friends.> > If everyone who cares about Emperor's Clothes chips in, we'll be out oftrouble in no time.> > Any help you can send will be greatly appreciated! $20, $50, $100 or$1000 - it will all help.> > You can make a credit card donation by going to our secure server athttp://emperors-clothes.com/howyour.html#donate> > You can mail a check to Emperor's Clothes, P.O. Box 610-321, Newton, MA02461-0321. (USA)> > Or make a donation over the phone. Call us at (U.S.) 617 916-1705 any timeand we will take your credit card information over the phone.> > Note: If you mail a donation or make one by secure server, please let usknow by email at emperors1000@aol.com, just to make sure we get it. 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Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
2001-Sep-16 17:31 UTC
[vorbis] [Fwd: Interview With Huffman Aviation Casts Doubt on Official Story]
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Randolph Carter wrote:> [snip]Hurray! The first entry in my killfile. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ignacio@openservices.net> --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.