Vorbis - May 2000 - Re: [vorbis-dev] Semi-off-topic ramblings

Tony Arcieri wrote :
>    I'm curious if anyone else is at all fed up with the current
>    state-of-affairs of media support under *IX. As things stand it's
rather
>    a pain to add support for a new codec/framing format to an application,
>    and it seems like were someone to step up and design a system which
>    abstracts media support from end-user applications and supports drop-in
>    modules for framing formats and codecs, it would greatly ease the
process
>    that new formats like ogg and vorbis are going through right now.
What you're talking about are Amiga DataTypes(tm). It's a dream !
Install a PNG-datatype driver and now all of your apps(*) support
PNG images !
It works also with audio files, text files, animations , hypertext
documents etc ...

(*) - all apps that use the datatypes system 

I wonder nothing like this exists on other platforms.
Maybe someone is working on this, should search web ...

There are sime projects ( libraries ) that do part of this,
but usually have limited capabilities, like libsndfile ,
imlib etc.

I hope something like this will be avaliable soon as free software.
 
>    Certainly the drop-in module solution is the case with some applications
>    (e.g. xmms), but wouldn't it be nice if with one drop-in module all
>    applications could support a codec?
> 
>    I've given the subject quite a bit of thought (although I'm
probably not
>    the one who should be thinking about how to implement this sort of
thing)
>    If anyone else feels the same way or would like to discuss the idea
I'd be
>    glad to hear it.
> 
>    Tony Arcieri
David Balazic

P.S.: I moved the thread in to the vorbis list, as suggested by monty,
      alltough it _is_ a developer thing ( and not really vorbis related
)

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On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:43:52AM +0200, David Balazic
wrote:
> Tony Arcieri wrote :
> 
> >    I'm curious if anyone else is at all fed up with the current
> >    state-of-affairs of media support under *IX. As things stand
it's rather
> >    a pain to add support for a new codec/framing format to an
application,
> >    and it seems like were someone to step up and design a system which
> >    abstracts media support from end-user applications and supports
drop-in
> >    modules for framing formats and codecs, it would greatly ease the
process
> >    that new formats like ogg and vorbis are going through right now.
> 
> What you're talking about are Amiga DataTypes(tm). It's a dream !
> Install a PNG-datatype driver and now all of your apps(*) support
> PNG images !
> It works also with audio files, text files, animations , hypertext
> documents etc ...
> 
> (*) - all apps that use the datatypes system 
> 
> I wonder nothing like this exists on other platforms.
> Maybe someone is working on this, should search web ...
BeOS has it.  Windows attempts to (there's a codec system) but almost 
nobody uses it.
> There are sime projects ( libraries ) that do part of this,
> but usually have limited capabilities, like libsndfile ,
> imlib etc.
And I don't know how well those support external binary plugins.
That's a must for systems like this.  Not necessarily because you
want to encourage binary-only distributions (you don't really,
especially if you want this to be cross-platform), but because it
makes new codecs/types easier to add.
> P.S.: I moved the thread in to the vorbis list, as suggested by monty,
>       alltough it _is_ a developer thing ( and not really vorbis related
It's not specifically related to vorbis development.  *shrug*


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