Hello, I don't have advanced on the NHW Project this past month, but I have definitely validated its characteristics and this new version. The NHW Codec preserves or enhances image neatness and sharpness, which translates that on good quality images the NHW Codec is globally better than HEVC, and on degraded (with blur, artifacts) images it is worse than HEVC because it lacks of precision. I have made tests on 100 images from the Internet. The NHW Project still lacks very high compression, and I think now I will inspire from HEVC, that is to say, I would like to strongly remove details and preserve the contours, edges. It is not that easy to code, and again any help would be very very welcome! Again if you can provide any help to the NHW Project, do not hesitate to show up, would be so much appreciated!!! The NHW codec has a high speed, which makes it a good candidate for mobile, embedded devices.There are currently some exploration for a MotionJPEG replacement on low power processor (dual-core 240MHz Xtensa LX6) where MotionJPEG appears to be too heavyweight. With the recent updates, I think the NHW Project is still patent-free and royalty-free. And just the fact that it is royalty-free, should be worth the try. So with this new version, I hope the NHW Project could attract a company that would like to sponsorize the project (to adapt the codec to any size of image for example). Very quickly to finish, I have seen that on the Theora mailing list there are employees from big companies.This can be indiscreet and very impolite, but for example there are 2 employees from Apple who are on the Theora channel mailing list... Does Apple can be interested in such a codec as the NHW Project? If not, what does it lack to be of interest? Would you have some advice? Many thanks again! Cheers, Raphael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/theora/attachments/20180709/3e30b41a/attachment.html>
I think Apple is somehow "attached" to the MPEG group. They control the "pools" too. Your codec sounds great. Google could -- if they wanted to -- use it but they have Web^M and webP. Look to Asia. Asus has just launched a new phone. ?? On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 3:14 PM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote:> Hello, > > I don't have advanced on the NHW Project this past month, but I have > definitely validated its characteristics and this new version. > > The NHW Codec preserves or enhances image neatness and sharpness, which > translates that on good quality images the NHW Codec is globally better > than HEVC, and on degraded (with blur, artifacts) images it is worse than > HEVC because it lacks of precision. I have made tests on 100 images from > the Internet. > > The NHW Project still lacks very high compression, and I think now I will > inspire from HEVC, that is to say, I would like to strongly remove details > and preserve the contours, edges. It is not that easy to code, and again > any help would be very very welcome! Again if you can provide any help to > the NHW Project, do not hesitate to show up, would be so much appreciated!!! > > The NHW codec has a high speed, which makes it a good candidate for > mobile, embedded devices.There are currently some exploration for a > MotionJPEG replacement on low power processor (dual-core 240MHz Xtensa LX6) > where MotionJPEG appears to be too heavyweight. > > With the recent updates, I think the NHW Project is still patent-free and > royalty-free. And just the fact that it is royalty-free, should be worth > the try. > > So with this new version, I hope the NHW Project could attract a company > that would like to sponsorize the project (to adapt the codec to any size > of image for example). > > Very quickly to finish, I have seen that on the Theora mailing list there > are employees from big companies.This can be indiscreet and very impolite, > but for example there are 2 employees from Apple who are on the Theora > channel mailing list... Does Apple can be interested in such a codec as the > NHW Project? If not, what does it lack to be of interest? Would you have > some advice? > > Many thanks again! > Cheers, > Raphael > > > > > _______________________________________________ > theora mailing list > theora at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/theora/attachments/20180709/d5b75c27/attachment.html>
Hello Dave! Thank you very much for your answer! You're right.I have thought that the new next-generation codecs like JVET (MPEG) VVC, AOM AV1, XVC will be too computational-intensive for mobile phones.So the de facto codecs for mobiles devices are H.264 and HEVC, I thought that my codec that is royalty-free and a lot faster could move the lines, but you're right Apple is "attached" to MPEG and Google and the others are "attached" to AOM.> Look to AsiaI am always very attracted by new opportunities for my NHW Project! But don't you think there will be a problem of compatibility? For example a company wants to use the NHW Project in its new mobile phone, but what will happen if the NHW Project is not supported by web browsers? Anyway, I am very interested to look to Asia, would you have some advice? Cheers, Raphael 2018-07-09 23:33 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <davefilms.us at gmail.com>:> I think Apple is somehow "attached" to the MPEG group. They control the > "pools" too. Your codec sounds great. Google could -- if they wanted to -- > use it but they have Web^M and webP. Look to Asia. Asus has just launched a > new phone. ?? > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 3:14 PM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I don't have advanced on the NHW Project this past month, but I have >> definitely validated its characteristics and this new version. >> >> The NHW Codec preserves or enhances image neatness and sharpness, which >> translates that on good quality images the NHW Codec is globally better >> than HEVC, and on degraded (with blur, artifacts) images it is worse than >> HEVC because it lacks of precision. I have made tests on 100 images from >> the Internet. >> >> The NHW Project still lacks very high compression, and I think now I will >> inspire from HEVC, that is to say, I would like to strongly remove details >> and preserve the contours, edges. It is not that easy to code, and again >> any help would be very very welcome! Again if you can provide any help to >> the NHW Project, do not hesitate to show up, would be so much appreciated!!! >> >> The NHW codec has a high speed, which makes it a good candidate for >> mobile, embedded devices.There are currently some exploration for a >> MotionJPEG replacement on low power processor (dual-core 240MHz Xtensa LX6) >> where MotionJPEG appears to be too heavyweight. >> >> With the recent updates, I think the NHW Project is still patent-free and >> royalty-free. And just the fact that it is royalty-free, should be worth >> the try. >> >> So with this new version, I hope the NHW Project could attract a company >> that would like to sponsorize the project (to adapt the codec to any size >> of image for example). >> >> Very quickly to finish, I have seen that on the Theora mailing list there >> are employees from big companies.This can be indiscreet and very impolite, >> but for example there are 2 employees from Apple who are on the Theora >> channel mailing list... Does Apple can be interested in such a codec as the >> NHW Project? If not, what does it lack to be of interest? Would you have >> some advice? >> >> Many thanks again! >> Cheers, >> Raphael >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> theora mailing list >> theora at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora >> >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/theora/attachments/20180709/6b39f434/attachment.html>
Hello Dave, Thank you very much for your help! Cheers, Raphael 2018-07-10 9:39 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <davefilms.us at gmail.com>:> Let me do some looking. > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 4:55 PM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello Dave! >> >> Thank you very much for your answer! >> >> You're right.I have thought that the new next-generation codecs like JVET >> (MPEG) VVC, AOM AV1, XVC will be too computational-intensive for mobile >> phones.So the de facto codecs for mobiles devices are H.264 and HEVC, I >> thought that my codec that is royalty-free and a lot faster could move the >> lines, but you're right Apple is "attached" to MPEG and Google and the >> others are "attached" to AOM. >> >> > Look to Asia >> >> I am always very attracted by new opportunities for my NHW Project! But >> don't you think there will be a problem of compatibility? For example a >> brand wants to use the NHW Project in its new mobile phone, but what will >> happen if the NHW Project is not supported by web browsers? >> >> Anyway, I am very interested to look to Asia, would you have some advice? >> >> Cheers, >> Raphael >> >> >> >> 2018-07-09 23:33 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <davefilms.us at gmail.com>: >> >>> I think Apple is somehow "attached" to the MPEG group. They control the >>> "pools" too. Your codec sounds great. Google could -- if they wanted to -- >>> use it but they have Web^M and webP. Look to Asia. Asus has just launched a >>> new phone. ?? >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 3:14 PM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I don't have advanced on the NHW Project this past month, but I have >>>> definitely validated its characteristics and this new version. >>>> >>>> The NHW Codec preserves or enhances image neatness and sharpness, which >>>> translates that on good quality images the NHW Codec is globally better >>>> than HEVC, and on degraded (with blur, artifacts) images it is worse than >>>> HEVC because it lacks of precision. I have made tests on 100 images from >>>> the Internet. >>>> >>>> The NHW Project still lacks very high compression, and I think now I >>>> will inspire from HEVC, that is to say, I would like to strongly remove >>>> details and preserve the contours, edges. It is not that easy to code, and >>>> again any help would be very very welcome! Again if you can provide any >>>> help to the NHW Project, do not hesitate to show up, would be so much >>>> appreciated!!! >>>> >>>> The NHW codec has a high speed, which makes it a good candidate for >>>> mobile, embedded devices.There are currently some exploration for a >>>> MotionJPEG replacement on low power processor (dual-core 240MHz Xtensa LX6) >>>> where MotionJPEG appears to be too heavyweight. >>>> >>>> With the recent updates, I think the NHW Project is still patent-free >>>> and royalty-free. And just the fact that it is royalty-free, should be >>>> worth the try. >>>> >>>> So with this new version, I hope the NHW Project could attract a >>>> company that would like to sponsorize the project (to adapt the codec to >>>> any size of image for example). >>>> >>>> Very quickly to finish, I have seen that on the Theora mailing list >>>> there are employees from big companies.This can be indiscreet and very >>>> impolite, but for example there are 2 employees from Apple who are on the >>>> Theora channel mailing list... Does Apple can be interested in such a codec >>>> as the NHW Project? If not, what does it lack to be of interest? Would you >>>> have some advice? >>>> >>>> Many thanks again! >>>> Cheers, >>>> Raphael >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> theora mailing list >>>> theora at xiph.org >>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora >>>> >>> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/theora/attachments/20180710/e929b4e5/attachment-0001.html>
You're welcome! On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 4:50 AM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote:> Hello Dave, > > Thank you very much for your help! > > Cheers, > Raphael > > 2018-07-10 9:39 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <davefilms.us at gmail.com>: > >> Let me do some looking. >> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 4:55 PM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello Dave! >>> >>> Thank you very much for your answer! >>> >>> You're right.I have thought that the new next-generation codecs like >>> JVET (MPEG) VVC, AOM AV1, XVC will be too computational-intensive for >>> mobile phones.So the de facto codecs for mobiles devices are H.264 and >>> HEVC, I thought that my codec that is royalty-free and a lot faster could >>> move the lines, but you're right Apple is "attached" to MPEG and Google and >>> the others are "attached" to AOM. >>> >>> > Look to Asia >>> >>> I am always very attracted by new opportunities for my NHW Project! But >>> don't you think there will be a problem of compatibility? For example a >>> brand wants to use the NHW Project in its new mobile phone, but what will >>> happen if the NHW Project is not supported by web browsers? >>> >>> Anyway, I am very interested to look to Asia, would you have some advice? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Raphael >>> >>> >>> >>> 2018-07-09 23:33 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <davefilms.us at gmail.com>: >>> >>>> I think Apple is somehow "attached" to the MPEG group. They control the >>>> "pools" too. Your codec sounds great. Google could -- if they wanted to -- >>>> use it but they have Web^M and webP. Look to Asia. Asus has just launched a >>>> new phone. ?? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 3:14 PM Raphael Canut <nhwcodec at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I don't have advanced on the NHW Project this past month, but I have >>>>> definitely validated its characteristics and this new version. >>>>> >>>>> The NHW Codec preserves or enhances image neatness and sharpness, >>>>> which translates that on good quality images the NHW Codec is globally >>>>> better than HEVC, and on degraded (with blur, artifacts) images it is worse >>>>> than HEVC because it lacks of precision. I have made tests on 100 images >>>>> from the Internet. >>>>> >>>>> The NHW Project still lacks very high compression, and I think now I >>>>> will inspire from HEVC, that is to say, I would like to strongly remove >>>>> details and preserve the contours, edges. It is not that easy to code, and >>>>> again any help would be very very welcome! Again if you can provide any >>>>> help to the NHW Project, do not hesitate to show up, would be so much >>>>> appreciated!!! >>>>> >>>>> The NHW codec has a high speed, which makes it a good candidate for >>>>> mobile, embedded devices.There are currently some exploration for a >>>>> MotionJPEG replacement on low power processor (dual-core 240MHz Xtensa LX6) >>>>> where MotionJPEG appears to be too heavyweight. >>>>> >>>>> With the recent updates, I think the NHW Project is still patent-free >>>>> and royalty-free. And just the fact that it is royalty-free, should be >>>>> worth the try. >>>>> >>>>> So with this new version, I hope the NHW Project could attract a >>>>> company that would like to sponsorize the project (to adapt the codec to >>>>> any size of image for example). >>>>> >>>>> Very quickly to finish, I have seen that on the Theora mailing list >>>>> there are employees from big companies.This can be indiscreet and very >>>>> impolite, but for example there are 2 employees from Apple who are on the >>>>> Theora channel mailing list... Does Apple can be interested in such a codec >>>>> as the NHW Project? If not, what does it lack to be of interest? Would you >>>>> have some advice? >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks again! >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Raphael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> theora mailing list >>>>> theora at xiph.org >>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora >>>>> >>>> >>> >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/theora/attachments/20180710/9e276abd/attachment.html>