Hello, Yes, that's right, I had the remark that if I say that the NHW codec would have more neatness/sharpness, this must be also accompanied with objective measure.But the neatness/sharpness measure is quite complex to define, and implement. But at classical visual review step, I would find that the NHW codec would be less blurred (maybe PSNR would like blur?...) with more neatness/sharpness, with the normal settings (-l2->-h3 settings).Do someone agree with this? And also, is visual review a good or sufficient method for "pointing" the advantage of a codec? Would be really interested in the opinion of the experts on these channels. Many thanks again, Raphael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/theora/attachments/20130909/770f5341/attachment.htm