theora - Jun 2009 - firefogg local encode web-app

I mentioned it in the #theora channel a few days ago but here it is with 
a more permanent url:

http://www.firefogg.org/make/advanced.html
&
http://www.firefogg.org/make/

These will be simple links you can send people so that they can encode 
source footage to a local ogg video file with the latest and greatest 
ogg encoders (presently thusnelda and vorbis). Updates to thusnelda and 
possible other free codecs will be pushed out via firefogg updates ;)

Pass along any feedback if things break or what not.

I am also doing testing with "embed" these encoder interface. For
those
familiar with jQuery: an example to rewrite all your file inputs with 
firefogg enhanced inputs:  $("input:[type='file']").firefogg()
... Feel
free to expeirment based on those examples. The form rewrite has mostly 
only been tested in the mediaWiki context: 
http://sandbox.kaltura.com/testwiki/index.php/Special:Upload
but with minor hacking should work elsewhere :)

enjoy
--michael

hey that's great! thanks michael. i have downloaded firefogg a week ago but
couldn't use it before... now i understand... are you going to add more
tools on ogg video tools like cat, cut, join etc...

i think firefogg is so important because it is cross platform and it will be
updated with the latest improvements on ogg (i think and hope so)... i have
written about this issue that when third parties make encoders and tools for ogg
they don't update their software with the latest library... super and
ffmpeg2hteora frontend were examples i have written about... and when people use
these software they are not aware that they don' benefit from the latest
improvements on ogg... theora is developing so fast (as i can see from this
list) that regular people cannot follow... so i was mentioning that xiph should
direct regular users to where they can find the software that uses the latest
improvements on ogg... for now theora website mentions vlc also for encoding to
ogg on faq page (http://theora.org/faq/) but the latest version i have (vlc
0.9.9 girshenko) uses libtheora I 20081020 3 2 1... faq page also doesn't
mention about ogv extenison but just ogg...

i know that it is not possible to make third parties update their software with
the latest improvements on theora but this makes regular people confused about
what is ogg theora (as in the example of ogm... even vlc lists it as ogm/ogg in
the convetion options)

i think xiph should announce where people can always find and follow latest
improvements on ogg theora for all the platforms. i think firefogg will be a
good example for this... but support for other ogg video tools like
cat,cut,split etc is also needed...

thanks michael


.-_-.


Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:08:41 -0700
From: Michael Dale <mdale at wikimedia.org>
Subject: [theora] firefogg local encode web-app
To: theora at xiph.org
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I mentioned it in the #theora channel a few days ago but here it is with 
a more permanent url:

http://www.firefogg.org/make/advanced.html
&
http://www.firefogg.org/make/

These will be simple links you can send people so that they can encode 
source footage to a local ogg video file with the latest and greatest 
ogg encoders (presently thusnelda and vorbis). Updates to thusnelda and 
possible other free codecs will be pushed out via firefogg updates ;)

Pass along any feedback if things break or what not.

I am also doing testing with "embed" these encoder interface. For
those
familiar with jQuery: an example to rewrite all your file inputs with 
firefogg enhanced inputs:  $("input:[type='file']").firefogg()
... Feel
free to expeirment based on those examples. The form rewrite has mostly 
only been tested in the mediaWiki context: 
http://sandbox.kaltura.com/testwiki/index.php/Special:Upload
but with minor hacking should work elsewhere :)

enjoy
--michael



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Yea it would be good to better outline this feature set. If there is 
time we can discuss at OVA.

--michael


Christopher Blizzard wrote:
>
> On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Michael Dale wrote:
>
>> It has taken a while to get all the pieces together to enable this but
>> should be interesting see how fast full featured video editors mature
in
>> this environment ;)
>>
>
> We need to sit down at some point and write down the list of things 
> that we need to do that - everything from per-frame steps to audio 
> editing.  I have a rough list from the last time I was in SF but we 
> should get it formalized.
>
> --Chris

On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Michael Dale wrote:
> Yea it would be good to better outline this feature set. If there is  
> time we can discuss at OVA.
We should make the time.

--Chris