Syslinux - Oct 2002 - SV: syslinux tool for Win2k and 'safeboot' option

Hello Luis

Thansk

Yes we tried that and it works, but if you are in the field and only have
new
clean compact-flash and no DOS, you are in trouble.

I can syslinux directly to the USB card-reader/writer under Linux without
problems too.
It just appears as a SCSI-device(/dev/sda).

best regards

ole at danelec.dk
 
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> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Luis.F.Correia [mailto:Luis.F.Correia at seg-social.pt]
> Sendt: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:30 AM
> Til: 'syslinux at zytor.com'
> Emne: RE: [syslinux] syslinux tool for Win2k and 'safeboot' option
> 
> 
> 
> For syslinux to work as you want under Win 2000/XP, you will need to
> write a 'kernel' driver for direct access.
> 
> Since the USB driver is already a 'kernel' driver, I don't
think
> you can get away with it.
> 
> I have syslinux'ed my CF with plain old dos with my 
> IDE<->compactflash 
> adapter.
> 
> But remember, once the CF is syslinux'ed, you can copy and 
> replace all content with the USB adapter. 
> 
> That's how I do backups now :)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ole Hansen [mailto:ole at danelec.dk] 
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:08 PM
> To: 'syslinux at zytor.com'
> Subject: RE: [syslinux] syslinux tool for Win2k and 'safeboot'
option
> 
> 
> Hello Josef
> 
> Thanks for replying.
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Ole Hansen <ole at danelec.dk> schrieb am 25.10.02 23:24:40:
> > > 1.
> > > We use an IDE<->compactflash-adapter in our 
> target-system. We use a 
> > > USB-compact-flash reader/writer(SanDisk/ImageMate) on our
> > linux-host to
> > > write the flash. It appears in the Linux-system as
> > '/dev/sda', and we can
> > > use syslinux and mount for copying kernel, syslinux.cfg and our 
> > > initial-ramdisk. This works very elegant.
> > 
> > note that linux uses this device as /dev/sdX, just like any
> > other disk drive. 
> 
> Yes, but Linux allow you to access any devices according to 
> /dev/xxxx -
> permissions Windows NT/2K/XP does not allow that.
> 
> > 
> > > If we try the same technic on a Win2k-system, the 
> USB-compact-flash 
> > > reader/writer appears as a non-permanent-disk and I can
> > read/write kernel,
> > > syslinux.cfg and our initial-ramdisk as expected, but
> > syslinux.com reports
> > > an error trying to write to bootsector(most likely a
> > permission-problem).
> > > In the user-notes for syslinux, it says that this can be
> > ignored and that it
> > > is likely to work anyway. I have now tried on 3 different
> > systems without
> > > luck(Win2k/sp2).
> > > 
> > > Has anybody made a version of syslinux.com that works on
> > win2k on flashdisks
> > > ??
> > 
> > Are you sure that W2K treats the 'removable device' it
> > reports as a plain
> > disk drive, or that the driver of the USB reader interferes 
> > with the MBR? 
> 
> No, I guess it treats it as a SCSI-harddisk... ??
> 
> > 
> > Did you try this (just for confirmation) with the IDE-CF
> > adaptor attached to the
> > W2K machine? This would prevent changing the CF card while 
> > W2k is booted,
> > though ...
> 
> This is same problem. It is the way SysLinux tries to gain access to
> 'raw'-device that makes the problem. I mean, when other tools like
> PartitionMagic can, it should be possible...
> 
> > 
> > I think there's something wrong with accessing the MBR in the
> > CF reader, 
> > and so syslinux fails.
> 
> No, it gets a permission error. There is a message saying 
> that a program
> tried to gain access to the device raw, and the choices: 
> ignore or cancel.
> If I choose ignore, it only copies the bootloader on to the 
> flash, but does
> not setup a pointer to it !!
> 
> best regards
> 
> ole at danelec.dk
> 
> * danelec electronics a/s
> * Blokken 44
> * DK-3460 Birkeroed
> * DENMARK
>  * Phone: +45 45821879
>   * Fax:  +45 45821979
>    * Email: ole at danelec.dk
>     * http://www.danelec.dk
>      * ftp://ftp.danelec.dk
>       * Radio call sign: oz1jru
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