similar to: Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

On 19/07/2018 15:57, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > <rant> > As far as google anything goes, not everybody volunteers one's > information into paws of google (and quite likely one or more of 3 > letter agencies collecting information that way). I know (call it > educated guess) that about 70% of messages I send are ending up in > google databases whether I want it or not.

On 07/19/18 09:14, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/18/2018 04:05 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> >> On 07/18/18 14:36, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>>>> But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling >>>>> for

On 07/18/2018 04:05 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 07/18/18 14:36, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> >> <snip> >> >>>> But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling >>>> for individual users and the main corporate account, etc. .. are >>>>

On 2018-07-19, Mark Rousell <mark.rousell at signal100.com> wrote: > > Well said. I feel that too many people today have forgotten (or, more > likely, never learned) these lessons from history. People give away > their personal and supposedly private information too easily and, I feel > certain, will come to regret it (some already have come to regret it). While I agree with

On 07/19/2018 03:18 PM, David C. Miller wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Keith Keller" <kkeller at wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> >> To: centos at centos.org >> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:33:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers? > >> On 2018-07-19, Mark

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Keller" <kkeller at wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> > To: centos at centos.org > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:33:17 AM > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers? > On 2018-07-19, Mark Rousell <mark.rousell at signal100.com> wrote: >> >> Well said. I feel

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 03:04:52PM +0000, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > One of the features of Microsoft Exchange 2016 is that you can create > additional folders on your Inbox in the server (server-side). Can > Linux-based SMTP servers do that? > > Does Exchange 2016 offer more user-friendly features or Linux-based > SMTP servers? I think you're a bit confused

Andrew Holway wrote: >> >> In addition, if you go to 365, you are NOT BUYING the software, you're >> renting the service. You will be paying every year, and a service >> contract will cost, and, presumably, cost more every year. >> > > Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares > on Linux. Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake

Andrew Holway wrote: >>> Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of >>> nightmares on Linux. >> >> Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this >> went to the CentOS general discussion list. > > I specifically meant setting up and running email services on linux is > not for the feint of heart and delivers

> Andrew, you should understand that you are talking to experts in Linux > here. > No, i was talking to the OP who is seemingly not an expert. Advising those who not competent that they can set up and run their own mailserver is probably negligent. Whipping up Exim and Dovecot for your own private email server is one thing. Setting up for an organisation is a completely different story.

Le 18/07/2018 ? 17:04, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming a ?crit?: > One of the features of Microsoft Exchange 2016 is that you can create > additional folders on your Inbox in the server (server-side). Can > Linux-based SMTP servers do that? I'm running a few bone-headed mail servers for schools and small companies. They're all bone-headed setups on CentOS. I'd say mail

On 2018-07-19, Nicolas Kovacs <info at microlinux.fr> wrote: > I'd say mail > servers are not the easiest thing to configure under Linux. A public SMTP server is not the easiest thing to configure, period. It is the quintessential rope on which many admins hang themselves. --keith -- kkeller at wombat.san-francisco.ca.us

Just out of curiosity, why are you not using something like Kolab or Zimbra? On 07/20/2018 02:44 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 18/07/2018 ? 17:04, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming a ?crit?: >> One of the features of Microsoft Exchange 2016 is that you can create >> additional folders on your Inbox in the server (server-side). Can >> Linux-based SMTP servers do that? >

Le 20/07/2018 ? 07:44, Keith Keller a ?crit : > A public SMTP server is not the easiest thing to configure, period. > It is the quintessential rope on which many admins hang themselves. It's not rocket science either, but you have to be willing to read (a lot) and experiment (a lot). In France we have an expression for misconfigured public SMTP servers. "Pompe ? merde".

On Wed, July 18, 2018 11:42 am, Kenneth Porter wrote: > On 7/18/2018 9:03 AM, mark wrote: >> Based on experience at a number of jobs, Exchange may appear to be easy >> to >> configure, but as soon as you get past the utterly basic configuration, >> when management or other departments want more, it then becomes a major >> headache. > > I like to say that

folks, didn't anybody check the name of this guy? Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <turritopsis.dohrnii at teo-en-ming.com> drops a bomb with provocative questions every now and then and NEVER ever responds to his own bullshit. He is just a troll! Michael

On 2018-07-22, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: > > And on top of all: MS Windows is the only systems I know of whose vendor > tells you, it is not safe to run without 3rd party software (antivirus). AFAIK (my son runs Windows, to my shame) Windows now comes bundled with antivirus software. I have no idea if it actually works or not. --keith -- kkeller at

> [...] People want their phone to > remind them of their appointments [...] It's a generalization. Not valid for all people. Maybe SOME people want their phone to remind them of their appointsments. My appointments are synchronized from owncloud to Thunderbird and to many (LineageOS-based) smartphones and tablets and >>I<< do NOT want to be reminded on the smartphones

On 07/25/2018 08:18 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > OK, what you say is true in theory. However, in Thunderbird on Linux > and using Mac clients, etc .. and certainly on Windows workstation > clients using outlook .. zimbra does not work well. It also does not > work well on people's smart phone calendars. People want their phone to > remind them of their appointments .. any

On 07/18/18 13:27, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/18/2018 12:33 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> >> On 07/18/18 12:24, Andrew Holway wrote: >>>> >>>>> Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of >>>>> nightmares >>>>> on Linux. >>>> >>>> Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email