similar to: MP3pro

hi, if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro ? thank you -- Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Carsten Henkel mailto:carsten@chatlabel.de Eine gl?ckliche Frau braucht 4 Tiere: einen Jaguar in der Garage, einen Nerz im Schrank, einen Hengst im Bett und einen Esel, der alles

Guten Tag Geoff Shang, Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 um 13:22 schrieben Sie: GS> Carsten Henkel wrote: >> if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a >> lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro GS> MP3. LAME does not do MP3Pro. And in fact, the stream that is reencoded GS> will also only be a reencode of the

Carsten Henkel wrote: > hi, > if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a > lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro > ? MP3. LAME does not do MP3Pro. And in fact, the stream that is reencoded will also only be a reencode of the MP3-compatible layer of the MP3Pro stream, as Ices does not know how to decode MP3Pro streams

Carsten Henkel wrote: > thank you for the information. is there a way to encode mp3pro with > linux ? There's no free implementation that I'm aware of. Thompson may be able to sell you something, but I've no idea how much it will cost. Frankly, I'd move to Ogg Vorbis, it's supported by more players anyway. Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <geoff@hitsandpieces.net>

> There's no free implementation that I'm aware of. Thompson may be > able to sell you something, but I've no idea how much it will cost. > Frankly, I'd move to Ogg Vorbis, it's supported by more players > anyway. From a quality standpoint, I'd love to, but from a 'supporting paid users of a stream with minimal effort' standpoint, the amount of

Sort of off topic, but I was wondering about how the SBR data factors into an mp3pro bitrate. If you encode a "64kbps" mp3pro stream, I'm guessing that 64kbps would include the SBR data. So, when played in a normal MP3 player, would a 64kbps mp3pro stream actually sound worse than a 64kbps MP3 stream? Tony Arcieri --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg

If anyone is interested, mp3PRO demo is available on Coding Technologies web site: http://www.codingtechnologies.de/ Demo is a Win32 encoder/player, and it is limited to 64kbps only. I did a quick test, and it really sounds good at 64kbps (but not as good as 128kbps - we all know that was hype). SBR (Spectral Band Replication) seems to be working pretty well. Of course SBR is only used if you

Greg, Yes, I have noticed that new codec.. AACPlus. Its really impressive in it's abilities, and it's sound quality. I tried to open it up with Windows Media Player and my Flash Player.. didn't seem to like it very much. While It's really kewl as a codec, and it has great support with a couple players, and limited support for the rest, I'll stick with the mainstream for now,

And thats only a player. What about an (Open Source) encoder? Nah, I'll stick with OGG for the time being. Regards, Mark -- Mark de Bokx Internet Service Engineer ICT Communication and Media Services PlanetMediaGroup the Netherlands "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty not safety." --Benjamin Franklin

Does anyone know if this is possible? Not sure if there is a hack that would work with this. I know the free mp3pro encoder works @ 64kbs... I don't know if anything supports this yet or not. Thanks DocNasty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20060530/0f404552/attachment.htm

At 09:52 6/9/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Thomas, > >You should post this hear, as it's just as relevant ;) > >Hey guys, how do you feel now that you all owe Thompson $2k per year? >Vorbis look more interesting now :) > >It's really disgusting how the technology is now worth more than the >music. It should be noted that this fee applies only if you are delivering in

At 13:28 6/9/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Do you have any ads on your site? That's probably streaming related >revenue. Nope. >Do you list on shoutcast.com? There's definately stremaing related >revenue there. Yes, but the revenue is not coming to me. >Do you broadcast through live365? DEFINATELY streaming related revenue. See above. >Maybe you won't have to pay,

Red alert people. When ogg starts to make money for someone (whoever if anyone at all,) then the boys in the legal team at Fraunhofer will throw something at it in the form of "hey, you are stepping on our IP" and then sue. Until then, what is the point. So.... Until then, this argument is pointless. Lithium On Sat, 09 June 2001, Sean /The RIMBoy/ wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Jun

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Asymmetric wrote: > It should be noted that this fee applies only if you are delivering in mp3 > format "for profit." If you're doing it for free, you don't have to pay > them a dime.. from the quoted URL... > > ---- > "If MP3 is used for free distribution on the Internet, we will not charge > royalties," he says. But

At 13:52 6/9/2001 -0600, you wrote: >So uh, you think it's worth more for mp3, than the actual music >involved? > >Come on. Hmm.. so what you're saying is that for under $2K I can get an unlimited distribution license from the recording industry? To burn, distribute, sell and market as much of their material as I like? Wow. Sign me up. >You think it would be nice if

> I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not charging anything. As > mentioned, the royalties to record labels still stand if you don't follow > the rules, but this will be true regardless of the format > (mp3/vorbis/whatever.) Do you have any ads on your site? That's probably streaming related revenue. Do you list on shoutcast.com? There's definately

At 14:45 6/9/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Streaming music is $250 minimum, with, I believe, less than 2% >royalties. For $500 a year you can stream all the music in the world >pretty much, prefectly legally. If you make a profit, it's a royalty. >But MP3's royalty here is higher than the royalty for the actual music. >That is out of whack. Especially in an age where we are

> >There's still a possibility that the DMCA will be dismantled before the > >arbitration is even finished. You shouldn't have to pay the RIAA > >anyway, and the fact that they are even involved is astrocious. > > I think having the DMCA repealed would be too much to hope for, but one can > dream right.. :) At the very least section 1201's days are

Thomas, You should post this hear, as it's just as relevant ;) Hey guys, how do you feel now that you all owe Thompson $2k per year? Vorbis look more interesting now :) It's really disgusting how the technology is now worth more than the music. jack. ----- Forwarded message from Thomas Kirk <thomas@arkena.com> ----- Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:58:23 +0200 From: Thomas Kirk

>From /., here's the URL with the announcement of mp3PRO http://www.twice.com/html/pagebeta.cfm?InputKey=2853 {+} Jeff Squyres {+} squyres@cse.nd.edu {+} Perpetual Obsessive Notre Dame Student Craving Utter Madness {+} "I came to ND for 4 years and ended up staying for a decade" --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: