In an email yesterday evening, Perry Nguyen expressed concern about the moving of the ''restarted'' file from /var/lib/shorewall to $STATEDIR (STATEDIR is set in your shorewall.conf file and defaults to /var/state/shorewall). I''m afraid I was a bit short with Perry for which I apologize. Here''s the story: 1. What is the ''restarted'' file used for? This file was introduced in version 1.3.5 to allow the time that the NetFilter counters were last reset to be displayed in the output of certain /sbin/shorewall commands. The current date and time are stored in the ''restarted'' file during processing of the start, restart and reset commands. 2. What if the file doesn''t exist? The /sbin/shorewall commands that normally display the date/time of last counter reset simply omit that information; all other information that the commands display will appear normally. 3. Do I need to move the ''restarted'' file from /var/lib/shorewall to $STATEDIR? No - after you have installed 1.3.9 but before you have issued a start, restart or reset command, $STATEDIR/restarted will simply not exist and /sbin/shorewall will behave as described in the previous bullet. It was a conscious decision on my part to not document the move of ''restarted'' in the release notes (although it was an oversight that the move was not mentioned in the change log). I will be sure to document all such future changes. -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy AIM: tmeastep \ http://www.shorewall.net ICQ: #60745924 \ teastep@shorewall.net