Shorewall devel - May 2005 - Re: Shorewall development web site (Mike Noyes)

Hello,

I leave for a couple days .. (Well months) and look at what has 
happened. :-)

I would throw my support in behind Xoops .. to be honest ..

If a portal is what we are trying to achieve here.

I just happen to think that sometimes .. More work goes into web design 
etc than goes into actual Code.

But thats because I am a lamer at web design :-)

I am coming in here a bit late .. But tell me what I can do.

I will confess that I am more of a command line type of person.

Maybe I should just "Re-Pick" up sample enhancements/maintenance .. My
Speed .. VI :-)

Regards,

Francesca Smith
Lady Linux Internet Services
Baltimore, Maryland 21217
"No Problems Only Solutions"

On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 12:13, Francesca Smith wrote:
> I would throw my support in behind Xoops .. to be honest ..
> 
> If a portal is what we are trying to achieve here.
Francesca,
What''s needed is a separation of web design from content. Web design
should be a one time thing. Content creation should be as easy as
possible for non technical users. This is the main reason wiki is so
good for collaboration. The syntax is simple enough to grasp quickly,
and the parser is usually forgiving. Xhtml and css on the other hand are
complex and unforgiving. Especially, when you start talking about
serving pages as application/xhtml+xml.
> I just happen to think that sometimes .. More work goes into web design 
> etc than goes into actual Code.
Very true. :-(
> But thats because I am a lamer at web design :-)
I''m not great at web design either. I do have some skill with xhtml and
css though.

Some good references:

        Web Standards Project
        http://webstandards.org/learn/
        
        ZVON.org The Guide to the XML Galaxy
        http://www.zvon.org/
        
        Index DOT Html and Index DOT Css: THE Advanced HTML/CSS
        References
        http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/
        
        CSS, Accesibility and Standards Links
        http://www.dezwozhere.com/links.html

-- 
Mike Noyes <mhnoyes at users.sourceforge.net>
http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/
SF.net Projects: leaf, phpwebsite, phpwebsite-comm, sitedocs

Mike Noyes wrote:
> ...
> I''m not great at web design either. I do have some skill with
xhtml and
> css though.
> 
> Some good references:
> 
>         Web Standards Project
>         http://webstandards.org/learn/
>         
>         ZVON.org The Guide to the XML Galaxy
>         http://www.zvon.org/
>         
>         Index DOT Html and Index DOT Css: THE Advanced HTML/CSS
>         References
>         http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/
>         
>         CSS, Accesibility and Standards Links
>         http://www.dezwozhere.com/links.html
"URL Man" strikes again!  :-)

-- 
Paul
<http://paulgear.webhop.net>
--
Did you know?  Microsoft Internet Explorer and Outlook have a poor track
record for security <http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/713878>.  Why not
try one of the more secure alternatives from <http://mozilla.org>?
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Francesca Smith wrote:
> ...
> I would throw my support in behind Xoops .. to be honest ..
> If a portal is what we are trying to achieve here.
If we start getting into debates about which open source CMS we''re
going
to use, we''ll never get a new web site started!  :-)  Ron Shannon is
going to provide a better hosting platform than my home server, and
since he''s more experienced in Drupal than i am, we''ll
probably end up
with something pretty good.  Ron, do you have any idea where to start
fixing the validation errors that Mike pointed out?
> I just happen to think that sometimes .. More work goes into web design
> etc than goes into actual Code.
Almost no effort has gone into web design at
http://shorewall.dyndns.org.  ;-)
> ...
> I am coming in here a bit late .. But tell me what I can do.
> 
> I will confess that I am more of a command line type of person.
> 
> Maybe I should just "Re-Pick" up sample enhancements/maintenance
I think a champion for the samples is just what we need right now.  Tom
carried so much of shorewall completely on his own, but we can''t afford
to do that.  We need each person to take responsibility in one
particular area, and then get in and *do* it.  The samples are there in
CVS now (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/shorewall/Samples/), so
you can start hacking on them right now if you choose, and send patches
to this list.

-- 
Paul
<http://paulgear.webhop.net>
--
Did you know?  Microsoft Internet Explorer and Outlook have a poor track
record for security <http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/713878>.  Why not
try one of the more secure alternatives from <http://mozilla.org>?
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