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I just tried rc4-cvs and I can't believe how good it sounds! I can hear very little difference between the wav and the q0-ogg on my above-average stereo... It really makes MP3 look (sound) *pathetic* in comparision! I did some comparisions on a few songs, from noisy 77-punk to Jean-Michel Jarre to EBM/Industrial, and q0/~64kbit RC4-vorbis sounds as good or better than V9/~128kbit LAME-mp3

After doing an informal (128k) listening test, I have concluded that I prefer Beta4 over RC2. The 16kHz low-pass on the RC2 encoder makes it sound like FM radio. Both encoders SEEM to have a couple of dB bump at 10kHz. JT --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to