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...;> non-Fedora users and on their well-tuned systems. >> >> > There's always the option of just NOT upgrading...and using what you > currently have...(I'm just now going from CentOS 5 to CentOS 6!....) I'm > just saying. > Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your thought half a step farther ;-) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++...

On 2015-01-11, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: > > Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your > thought half a step farther ;-) Or going even farther, if you like CentOS but not systemd, do the work to get CentOS working without it. Unhappy Debian users are trying to do this with Devuan. It seems extremely unlikely that complaining about downstream is goi...

On Sun, January 11, 2015 5:16 pm, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2015-01-11, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: >> >> Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your >> thought half a step farther ;-) > > Or going even farther, if you like CentOS but not systemd, do the work > to get CentOS working without it. Unhappy Debian users are trying to do > this with Devuan. It seems extremely unlikely that complaining...

On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev .... > I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the > design goals of systemd and any of the shortcomings of old init systems. Design goals ? Compatibility with and/or minimum disruption to existing systems ? It was arrogant change with absolutely no regard for the existing Centos/RHEL