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...t listing of ugly sides of systemd - which you said yourself are there. As far as "advantages" are concerned: I didn't see any compared to sysvinit or upstart. I don't care that _laptop_ with systemd starts 3 times faster - it's brilliant when you have to start it right on the podium few seconds before giving your presentation. However, my life is more influenced by the servers I maintain. BTW, when "counting votes" keep in mind an existence of an army of refugees from Linux, they already have voted against ugliness here, there,... Just my $0.02 Valeri ++++++++++++...

...nterprise that sysinit did not provide? >>> >> systemd has it's ugly downsides, but it >> _does_ provide much needed features. > > I don't care that _laptop_ with systemd starts 3 > times faster - it's brilliant when you have to start it right on the > podium few seconds before giving your presentation. What about all those poor enterprise people who have been arm-twisted into agreeing to SLAs? If you?ve agreed to provide five nines of availability, a single reboot in the old BIOS + hardware RAID + SysV init world could eat most of the ~5 minutes of d...

...not provide? >>>> >>> systemd has it's ugly downsides, but it >>> _does_ provide much needed features. >> >> I don't care that _laptop_ with systemd starts 3 >> times faster - it's brilliant when you have to start it right on the >> podium few seconds before giving your presentation. > > What about all those poor enterprise people who have been arm-twisted into > agreeing to SLAs? > > If you?ve agreed to provide five nines of availability, a single reboot in > the old BIOS + hardware RAID + SysV init world could eat...

...#39;t exist. Here is a prime example. You would need to use another piece of software to do something systemd does that sysinit does not. You need something like monit (http://mmonit.com/monit/) to monitor daemons. > > - it's brilliant when you have to start it right on the >> podium few seconds before giving your presentation. However, my >> life is more influenced by the servers I maintain. > Than how do you maintain servers with sysvinit? > > > I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the > design goals of systemd and an...

...ysvinit or upstart. I don't care that _laptop_ with systemd starts > 3 times faster You are making an excellent job at ignoring my argument. Again: how do you ensure that your system services are up and running with sysvinit? - it's brilliant when you have to start it right on the > podium few seconds before giving your presentation. However, my > life is more influenced by the servers I maintain. Than how do you maintain servers with sysvinit? I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the design goals of systemd and any of the shortcomings of old...

On Fri, January 9, 2015 17:36, John R Pierce wrote: > On 1/9/2015 2:32 PM, Always Learning wrote: >> Enterprise, in the RHEL context, suggests stability or have I >> misunderstood the USA definition of "Enterprise" ? > > > Enterprise to me implies large business Enterprise literally means 'undertaking'. It has been used euphemistically since the later

...solution to a UN [Security Council] vote and we didn?t want her to vote for it," Olmert said. "I said ?get President Bush on the phone.? They tried and told me he was in the middle of a lecture in Philadelphia. I said ?I?m not interested, I need to speak to him now.? He got down from the podium, went out and took the phone call." [PM: Rice left embarrassed in UN vote, By Yaakov Lappin , Jerusalem Post, January 12, 2009]. Roberts then turned to a friend?s comments to summarize this exchange: "Let me see if I understand this," wrote a friend in response to news reports that...

...solution to a UN [Security Council] vote and we didn?t want her to vote for it," Olmert said. "I said ?get President Bush on the phone.? They tried and told me he was in the middle of a lecture in Philadelphia. I said ?I?m not interested, I need to speak to him now.? He got down from the podium, went out and took the phone call." [PM: Rice left embarrassed in UN vote, By Yaakov Lappin , Jerusalem Post, January 12, 2009]. Roberts then turned to a friend?s comments to summarize this exchange: "Let me see if I understand this," wrote a friend in response to news reports that...

Tripwire is probably one of must-have utilities for many system administrators. However, it is missing from almost all recent Red Hattish distributions. IMO, probably due to the fact that source compiles only on i386, and needs patches to compile almost every time new major version of gcc is released. However, in absence of good replacement, this is all we have. (IMO, other tools such as AIDE

Morning all... I have a Dedicated server in a data center in Germany, and it has 2 3TB drives, but only software RAID. I have got them to install VMWare ESXi and so far everything is going ok... I have the 2 drives as standard data stores... But i am paranoid... So, i installed Nexenta as a VM, gave it a small disk to boot off and 2 1Tb disks on separate physical drives... I have created a

Helo, Good Morning, Im have many problems with load balance/backup, In test made with lartc.org scripts, the balance not work 50/50 , and when i down the link, the internet comes down. I need a Balance like Round Robin, and when one link comes down, the internet not stop. In my mini-lab i have 2 links adsl, 3 ethernet card 2 for links and one for lan my links using DHCP for get configuration.