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For those who are interested, I've run 3 EAQUAL tests on both the LAME and OGG encoders: LAME with the --alt-standard preset (with and without --nspsytune) and OGGENC (RC3) with -q 6 (my personal "sweet spot") I am somewhat unsure though about the validity of these tests, since the original and decoded files were not the same size (2 KB difference). The LAME encoded files were also

I started thinking about this after doing a little testing with AAC, MP3 and Ogg Vorbis. I was comparing the different formats at similiar bitrates. After a while I finally realized that they all sound more or less the same to me. >From 160 kbps on, I usually cannot detect any difference between a lossy encoding and the original source. If LAME is used, I have to strain to notice anything at

I've just Replaygained several of my Vorbis albums with Vorbisgain, ranging from 80's metal to present day soft rock. What I don't understand is why does Vorbisgain actually make all tracks QUIETER? I see an average of -7db on most albums. And after that, not only are they substantially quieter than my MP3s (which is a pain), but it also fails to really "even out" the volume.

ARGH! I am at a complete loss as to which OGG quality settings to use: 8? 10? 3? I'd like to be able to listen to my primarily Rock oriented music on a high-end system (though I don't own one - yet) without any noticeable sound degradation, but I don't want to go total overkill with -q 10. With LAME, I at least used to know 192 kbps with -q0 was a perfect size/quality proportion. I

Has anyone from the Vorbis team been in contact with the LAME camp? I'm sure with their knowledge, the people developing LAME could make a major contribution to the OGG development, if they were willing. Sure, MP3 and OGG are in some ways majorly different, but they are similarities, right? With the latest stable release of 3.91, I think the LAME crew has done their best and pulled a helluva

After downloading Vorbis 1.0 the other day and encoding a couple of songs with it, I checked "file info" and noticed that their version number was still "0". Until now I'd always assumed "version" meant the version of libvorbis, and that after the 1.0 release it'd switch to "1". Does "version" means something completely different then? Or

I've just spotted that the latest version of Winamp (v2.80) has support built in (not requiring the plugin to be installed) at last. At least according the the "new features" section. Regards, Tone. <p><p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to

I just wanted to know if anyone has noticed a difference between MP3 and OGG encoded files when having the Winamp equalizer switched on? I seem to be missing bass and the sound doesn't fill the room as much with OGG. With the EQ turned off there is no discernable difference between both LAME and Vorbis encoded files (both at an average of 192 kbps). Is this an error with the OGG Winamp plugin?

I am but a poor code & compile illiterate, making it impossible for me to create Windows binaries from the EAQUAL source (http://sourceforge.net/projects/eaqual/). Would someone be interested in providing said binaries? They would be very helpful to me in evaluating Ogg Vorbis and other audio codecs. I'm also sure that other people would benefit from the program. -- GMX - Die

For those of you Windows users who are unable to compile your own binaries, I have found a website that offers daily CVS binary updates. I've found it very useful. http://www.din.or.jp/~glit/TheOddStage/Progs/Vorbis/autobuild_e.html -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project

Back in the day, when I was still using LAME, I was aware of the fact that the program would cut off frequencies above a certain level (lowpass). With 192 kbps this was usually around 20Khz (which is the highest frequency a human can hear, as far as I know), and at 128 something like 16Khz. Does Vorbis do something similar? If so, does someone have a chart of the cutoffs at the different quality

I was wondering, is there a way to encode Oggs with EAC on-the-fly? I'm looking for a way to shorten the whole ripping and encoding process, but so far I've only seen support for the commandline encoder. -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage:

I'm still looking for a P2P network (i.e. Gnutella, KaZaA, etc.) and client that actively supports the OGG format. People have told me that since Gnutella is so flexible that it is also possible to trade .ogg files. In reality, I haven't seen a single client using the Gnutella network that could search and truly FIND an .ogg file. Does anyone know of a network or specifically, a client