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2004 Aug 06
2
peelable streaming
question:
would it be possible to mess around with icecast2s' relay ability to kind of cheat a peelable streaming thing?
eg: client needs a bitrate lower than what is available, client tells server this, server relays to itself, or other available server, at a required bitrate, server forwards new stream info to client and so on.
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2005 May 12
1
Bitrate peeling on existing (older) streams ?
Hi all,
last time I have seen discussions here about alternative encoders, or
tuned versions of the encoder.
Last year (sept/oct) there had been the discussion if existing streams
will be peelable or if they have to be "modified" first to be peelable.
Now for my question:
Is it known allready if existing streams will be peelable or not ?
Or, with other words: Is it known if the /can/ be modified in a way
that they are peelable ? If so, will the stream loose in quality
when doing...
2002 Jul 11
1
RC4/1.0 and peeling
...grats to monty and the whole crew for getting
this close to 1.0. it's a monumental achievement reflecting
a huge amount of hard work -- kudos!
econd, i know the bitrate peeling feature has been pushed
back until after 1.0 is out. but i'm wondering -- will oggs
created with a 1.0 encoder be peelable with an as-yet-unreleased
utility, or do "peelable oggs" have to be created that way in
the first place? in other words, if peeling is the most important
feature for me, should i wait until a peeling-capable encoder is
out?
thanks,
SM
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2002 Dec 21
4
had a thought on peeling last night
I was up late last night, and i had a thought on peeling that would probably provide 100% accurate peeling data to a decoder, but take a maximum of 1101 times normal time to encode (taking into account the range from q-1 to q10 ).
ay you want to encode a track at q10, but you want it to be peelable.
the 1101 encoder would encode from the source at every quantifiable level (since there are 2 decimal points of quality in at least oggdrop, giving 100 quantifiable levels per integer level of quality, giving 1001 from q0 to q10, and an extra 100 for q-1 to q-0.01).
the 1101 encoder would then comp...
2003 Apr 08
6
bitpeeler
No offense, Segher, but the output quality of this thing is awful. =)
I'll disregard the fact that, at least with *my* compiler, the source
tarball I downloaded reduces every packet to zero bytes, which isn't
terribly interesting.
I decided to set the byte reduction to something constant: I started
by dividing each packet's size by 2 just to see what would happen.
The resulting ogg
2003 Jun 22
2
Bit Rate Peeling Quality
Hi All,
Let me ask this question of the group: When bit rate peeling becomes
available, how will the quality of the peeled Vorbis file compare to a
file encoded at the target quality directly from the original?
So, for:
a.wav --> b.ogg (at q6) --> c.ogg (at q2)
a.wav --------------------> d.ogg (at q2)
how are c.ogg and d.ogg likely to compare in terms of audio
2002 Jan 16
2
Ogg Vorbis Quality Analisis (+ bug) (+ misc)
I have run an ogg analisis using EAQUAL from -q 0 till
-q 10 evaluating bitrate and quality. The results are
shown in a nice graph, and can be seen here:
http://audio.sinderman.com/
One thing I have found is a bug, as it is cleary shown
by the blue lines. Other discoveries are written in that
page, and others are still evolving in my mind :)
The goals of this analisis is to help the developers
2001 May 23
2
bitrate peeling question
Hi:
A friend asked me a question that I was unable to answer, so I'm posting it
here.
Can files created by the beta4 encoder be peeled down when that becomes
available, or is the ability to encode peelable files also not implemented?
My friend wants to know if they should switch over now or hold off until
this becomes possible.
Geoff.
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2001 Oct 22
0
Bit peeling(?) used in MPEG-2/SVCD Nero plugin?
...that it
can encode exacty to the size of the CD (to maximize quality given a size
restriction). It also says (in a separate point) that it uses two-pass
VBR compression.
>From that I guess they do something like encoding a bigger-than needed
file and then throwing things out. But probably the peelable
represantation is only internal to the plugin and more complex than packet
truncation - hardly the SVCD format would support anything like the vorbis
bit peeling...
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2003 Dec 29
1
Bitrate stripping?
Hey y'all --
I heard some discussion a while back about "bitrate stripping" to reduce
filesize without re-encoding ... has this gone anywhere?
Too lazy to write a re-encode script,
Nate
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2002 Jan 03
1
Exact nature of RC2 re-encode bug
Hi:
I just wanted to know where exactly the problem with re-encoding in RC2
was. Was it in vorbis' ability to cope well with its own output as input,
or did the first encode produce output that didn't lend itself to
re-encoding?
The difference is important. If it's the latter, anyone wanting to
re-encode material will have to first encode it with RC3. I guess what I'm
asking
2003 Jul 04
6
Flaming
Greetings,
I thought this was supposed to be a list for educated people to discuss
serious development of the ogg vorbis project. In light of that, it is
amazing to see the level Mr. Segher Boessenkool drops down to in the
last posts. More or less calling people insane and accusing them of
being on crack and what not. I didn't want to post this on the list,
for there is no reason to
2002 Feb 07
3
compressed audio tutorial - 2nd draft
...ed Sony's name as developer of CD format
wrong word ("Which" -> "While")
reworked CBR/ABR/VBR section with corrected info
added section on "Why Vorbis?"
sound quality is high
patent-free and open source
nice features (tagging, peelable, more than two channels)
added paragraph on ABX
mentioned that lossless stereo coupling kicks in at -q 5
put "transcoding" in quotes since it's a misnomer
Please give it another read, especially those of you with keen eyes. I'd
like to get it finalized and up on vor...
2002 Feb 07
3
compressed audio tutorial - 2nd draft
...ed Sony's name as developer of CD format
wrong word ("Which" -> "While")
reworked CBR/ABR/VBR section with corrected info
added section on "Why Vorbis?"
sound quality is high
patent-free and open source
nice features (tagging, peelable, more than two channels)
added paragraph on ABX
mentioned that lossless stereo coupling kicks in at -q 5
put "transcoding" in quotes since it's a misnomer
Please give it another read, especially those of you with keen eyes. I'd
like to get it finalized and up on vor...
2002 Jun 23
1
peeling as I understand it (was Re: When will quality increase be unnoticable?)
...x. I believe the plan
> was to have RC4 produce streams that left better hints for the peeling
> tool, so as to make the tool simpler and faster, but I doubt we'll see it
> until post-1.0.
NOTE: this is my understanding of the situation. I am not a Vorbis developer.
RC3 streams are peelable. No tools exist to do so. (Except a
proof-of-concept hack that (I think) Segher made at some point. Or maybe
Monty.)
RC4 is focused on tuning the lower sample rates (below 44.1 kHz) and on
getting a proper bitsteam management engine in place. This is great news for
people doing streaming wi...
2002 Nov 01
10
fitting lots of music into 10GB with Vorbis
Hi- just wondering, what would be the best quality rating to use to fit lots of music into 10GB of HD space.
The audio quality has to be high enough for it to sound good when played through PA systems (for when my college is stupid enough to forget to hire a DJ, or when the realise the DJ they always hire can't use a mixing desk properly) ranging from a functional PA system thats stuck in the
2002 Aug 19
4
Format converters
Are direct bit-rate converters possible for Ogg Vorbis? Or do they
already exist?
Even more, is it possible to directly convert MP3/ATRAC3 (i.e., Sony
Minidisc) encoding to and from Ogg Vorbis?
There has been an earlier discussion on this question. But this
discussion centered around the fact that people couldn't see the point,
and were rather hostile to the idea.
There is a very good