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2017 Jul 28
2
CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora Boltron
Please take a look at http://www.itworld.com/article/3211046/linux/red-hats-boltron-snaps-together-a-modular-linux-server.html and https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-boltron/ which has a walkthrough questionnaire at the bottom. Your feedback very appreciated. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader
2017 Jul 28
0
CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora Boltron
Matthew Miller wrote: > Please take a look at > > http://www.itworld.com/article/3211046/linux/red-hats-boltron-snaps-together-a-modular-linux-server.html > > and > > https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-boltron/ > > which has a walkthrough questionnaire at the bottom. Your feedback very > appreciated. > What?s the point of doing this with Fedora? It?s not like bugs were fixed befo...
2017 Jul 28
0
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:11:53PM +0100, Phil Perry wrote: > The issue I have here is even if I did file a bug, and the issue > were fixed, no sooner than it's fixed fedora updates to the next > version and introduces a whole bunch of new bugs, and so the cycle > continues. I played that game for a while with fedora core when Red > Hat Linux died before settling on Enterprise
2017 Jul 30
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Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
On 30.07.2017 14:29, Johnny Hughes wrote: > I personally have a Fedora machine that I keep updated and do some work > on all the time learning/testing. I just seamlessly upgraded it from > Fedora 25 to Fedora 26 using a couple of dnf commands .. awesome > experience actually. because of this feature to upgrade from one release to the next, I thought to test this on my old computer;
2017 Aug 02
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Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
Johnny Hughes wrote: > I personally have a Fedora machine that I keep updated and do some work > on all the time learning/testing. I just seamlessly upgraded it from > Fedora 25 to Fedora 26 using a couple of dnf commands .. awesome > experience actually. Don?t get me started on Fedora updates. One of the reasons to deprecate Fedora was that upgrading had turned out to be unreliable
2017 Aug 02
0
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
Jonathan Billings wrote: > >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:56 PM, hw <hw at gc-24.de> wrote: >> >>> Many bugs are fixed in Fedora. Many more bugs are fixed in the >>> upstreams. Please remember that Fedora is primarily an *integration* >>> project, and the best way to get bugs fixed is for the developers of >>> the code in question to be involved.
2017 Aug 02
0
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, Mark Haney wrote: > Sure there is such a thing. It's a tiled console package (tilix is what I > use). In all honesty, I wouldn't want Libreoffice running in a container and > I can't imagine why you'd want an xterm in its own container. Most > containers I've built have been RESTful API containers, NGINX proxies/web > servers, etc. I
2017 Aug 02
2
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 02:04:54PM +0200, hw wrote: > Just wait and see how he will like the feedback he?s getting here ... Trolling aside (fascist? really?), I've gotten valuable feedback from several people which I really appreciate. I intend to continue to engage with the CentOS community, because when we work on big changes in Fedora which may come to our downstream distributions,
2017 Aug 03
0
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 02:04:54PM +0200, hw wrote: >> Just wait and see how he will like the feedback he?s getting here ... > > Trolling aside (fascist? really?), I've gotten valuable feedback from > several people which I really appreciate. I intend to continue to > engage with the CentOS community, because when we work on big changes > in
2017 Aug 04
0
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
Am 03.08.2017 um 15:55 schrieb Matthew Miller <mattdm at mattdm.org>: > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 03:25:36PM +0200, hw wrote: >>> In all honesty, I wouldn't want Libreoffice running in a container >>> and I can't imagine why you'd want an xterm in its own container. >> It was only an example. The point of doing that is to use different versions of
2017 Aug 02
0
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:56 PM, hw <hw at gc-24.de> wrote: >> Are you sure that all the added complexity and implicitly giving up a >> stable platform by providing a mess of package versions is worth it? How >> are the plans about dealing with bug reports, say, for squid 2.7, for >> those who need that version for a feature which hasn?t
2017 Jul 30
1
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
On 30.07.2017 20:22, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/30/2017 09:41 AM, Walter H. wrote: >> On 30.07.2017 14:29, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> I personally have a Fedora machine that I keep updated and do some work >>> on all the time learning/testing. I just seamlessly upgraded it from >>> Fedora 25 to Fedora 26 using a couple of dnf commands .. awesome >>>
2017 Aug 02
1
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, hw wrote: > That?s what I thought, and it may still be true. Unfortunately, feedback, > bug reports and even fixes and improvements experience so much unkindness > or ignorance in their reception that I?m better off finding a different > solution or fixing the bug myself, with very few exceptions. > > IIRC, Matthew who started this thread gave an overly
2017 Aug 04
1
Flatpak [was Re: Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora Boltron]]
On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 02:10:31PM +0200, Leon Fauster wrote: > > I think what you're looking for here is Flatpak. > Just a off-topic question (maybe in the future of EL less off-topic); > Does the concept of flatpak make updates in general more complicated > (e.g. security issues in libraries)? The centralized concept of "shared > libraries" does support by
2017 Aug 02
1
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
On 08/02/2017 07:36 AM, hw wrote: > > Don?t get me started on Fedora updates. One of the reasons to deprecate > Fedora was that upgrading had turned out to be unreliable and mostly > failing. Not being able to reliably upgrade disqualifies any > distribution. I hate to break it to you, but since they began using fedup and dnf upgrade, it's never been an issue for me at
2017 Aug 03
2
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 03:25:36PM +0200, hw wrote: > >In all honesty, I wouldn't want Libreoffice running in a container > >and I can't imagine why you'd want an xterm in its own container. > It was only an example. The point of doing that is to use different versions of > xterm and of emacs as come by default. How else would I do that when non-default >
2017 Aug 03
0
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
Mark Haney wrote: > On 08/02/2017 10:57 AM, hw wrote: >> >> It probably makes sense under the assumption that you do pretty much >> everything in one container or another and that it doesn?t bother you >> having to switch between all the containers to do something. That would >> require something like a window manager turned into a container manager, >> and
2017 Aug 02
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Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 07:56:41PM +0200, hw wrote: >> Sure is: You get to manage your distribution yourself by picking the >> versions of packages you figure might work together, which you are >> supposed and required to do with Gentoo, especially when you run into >> yet another dependency conflict. Only --- I guess --- you don?t get >>
2017 Jul 31
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Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
On 07/31/2017 07:15 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/30/2017 02:07 PM, Walter H. wrote: >> On 30.07.2017 20:22, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> On 07/30/2017 09:41 AM, Walter H. wrote: >>>> On 30.07.2017 14:29, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>>>> I personally have a Fedora machine that I keep updated and do some work >>>>> on all the time
2017 Jul 31
2
Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron
On 31.07.2017 13:23, Mark Haney wrote: > Uh, I run VMWare workstation just fine on my F26 upgraded machine. No, > it didn't work when I upgraded, but it's trivial to fix. > > http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=1939 > > This link gets you a running workstation in about 5 minutes. not really, with this I only get the additional network interfaces listed with 'ifconfig',