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OK I downloaded and compiled Mesa 3.4.1, the gears demo runs at about 140 fps so thats not looking like real hw accel ;) I downloaded a prebuilt gears from the dri webpage and I get 1300 fps even after I uninstalled my Mesa because it did not work together with Quake3 (always told me no hardware accel available) So I reverted to the libGL.so that came with my X4.0.2 binary tars. My glide3 is