samba - Mar 2025 - Will there be samba updates to Bookworm backports, while Debian is in pre release freeze?

On 16.03.2025 15:05, Rowland Penny via samba wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:53:26 +0100
> Peter Milesson via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> As Debian is preparing for a new major upgrade from Bookworm to
>> Trixie, changes are frozen in different steps. From yesterday (March
>> 15), there is a transition and toolchain freeze. From April 15 and on
>> there are further, more strict freezes.
>>
>> Does that imply that Samba updates to Bookworm backports will be
>> halted during the freeze period?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
> These are just my thoughts on the subject.
>
> It is my understanding that 'backported' packages are taken from
> 'testing' and backported to 'stable'. At the moment,
'stable' is
> Bookworm and 'testing' is Trixie, so from my understanding,
Bookworm
> backports should contain Samba from Trixie, the only problem is, it
> apparently doesn't. The Samba package in Trixie at present is 4.22.0,
> so there may be an update to come, only Michael can tell us this.
>
> Once Trixie is released, I wouldn't expect there to be any further
> updates to Bookworm backports, at that point, Trixie would then be
> 'stable' and Bookworm would be 'oldstable'.
>
> Rowland
>
>
Hi Rowland,

Thanks for the explanation. Maybe I did not formulate my question properly.

As the freeze period starts for testing (Trixie), there will be a point 
where no updates to testing will be allowed, which implies that neither 
Bookworm backports will get any updates. If I understand the Debian 
documentation correctly, only packages with limited impact on other 
packages will be allowed in the current phase (transition and toolchain 
freeze). Is Samba considered to have a high impact on other packages, or 
is it possible to assume that there still will be some updates to Samba 
in Bookworm backports?

The reason I ask is, that otherwise, there will be quite a hiatus with 
Samba updates, until Trixie is released (probably July-August), and 
Samba 4.23 almost knocking on the door.

Best regards,

Peter

On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 15:54:16 +0100
Peter Milesson via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 16.03.2025 15:05, Rowland Penny via samba wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:53:26 +0100
> > Peter Milesson via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> As Debian is preparing for a new major upgrade from Bookworm to
> >> Trixie, changes are frozen in different steps. From yesterday
> >> (March 15), there is a transition and toolchain freeze. From April
> >> 15 and on there are further, more strict freezes.
> >>
> >> Does that imply that Samba updates to Bookworm backports will be
> >> halted during the freeze period?
> >>
Anything I say on the subject is pure conjecture on my part, Michael
should know, he is the Debian Samba maintainer.

However (posh word for 'but'), if you go here:

https://backports.debian.org/

There is this paragraph:

Backports are packages taken from the next Debian release (called
"testing"), adjusted and recompiled for usage on Debian stable.
Because
the package is also present in the next Debian release, you can easily
upgrade your stable+backports system once the next Debian release comes
out. 

From reading that, it seems to me that because Trixie has 4.22.0 at the
moment, it could be backported to bookworm-backports, but Micheal will
have to comment on that. I would expect there to be no further updates
to bookworm once Debian freezes, mainly because there will be nothing
new to backport.

Rowland