samba - Feb 2013 - Cross-subnet browsing with LMBs + remote browse sync + samba4WINS

Hi,

i am about to implement cross subnet browsing/sharing
and I was wondering if the following configuration
would do it, so i would like your opinion:

1. There are two subnets separated by a simple router (no firewalls)

2. Each subnet will have a mixture of Win7/WinXP and Linux hosts.

3. Each subnet will have its own Samba3 LMB (but not DMB)
and its own samba4WINS server. Each client host in each subnet
will be DHCP configured with their respective WINS server.
The LMB will also be configured to use the samba4WINS server.

4. The two samba3 LMB servers will "remote browse sync" with each
other.
Thats how the browse lists will be exchanged.

5. The two samba4WINS servers will replicate with each other.
Thats how the host names will be exchanged.

Do you think that will turn out to be a working configuration?

Cheers,
- vagy

From: vagy <vagy at freemail.gr>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:34:37 +0200
> i am about to implement cross subnet browsing/sharing
> and I was wondering if the following configuration
> would do it, so i would like your opinion:
> 
> 1. There are two subnets separated by a simple router (no firewalls)
> 
> 2. Each subnet will have a mixture of Win7/WinXP and Linux hosts.
> 
> 3. Each subnet will have its own Samba3 LMB (but not DMB)
> and its own samba4WINS server. Each client host in each subnet
> will be DHCP configured with their respective WINS server.
> The LMB will also be configured to use the samba4WINS server.
> 
> 4. The two samba3 LMB servers will "remote browse sync" with each
other.
> Thats how the browse lists will be exchanged.
> 
> 5. The two samba4WINS servers will replicate with each other.
> Thats how the host names will be exchanged.
> 
> Do you think that will turn out to be a working configuration?
As far as I examined, "remote browse sync" did not work as I expected.
Sample smb.conf that I examined the behavior is:

-----
[global]
  workgroup = SAMBAxx
  domain master = yes
  wins support = yes
  remote browse sync = x.x.x.x
-----

Samba has to be WINS server and DMB.

---
TAKAHASHI Motonobu <monyo at monyo.com> / @damemonyo 
                   facebook.com/takahashi.motonobu

NO, you do not need remote browse sync if you have samba4wins working.
And you need only following to make it work in your LMB smb.conf
wins server = your.samba4wins.host
If your smaba4wins is on the same host as your LMB, put this is your
samba4wins
Samba4wins.conf:
bind interfaces only=yes
interfaces=your.samba4wins.ip (suggestion use a virt ip not used by samba)
ntpd:disable_broadcast=yes
wins server=your.samba4wins.ip

In your windows clients network configuration  set wins1 your first
samba4wins and wins2 the second samba4wins.


-----------------------------------------------
EDV Daniel M?ller

Leitung EDV
Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus
Paul-Lechler-Str. 24
72076 T?bingen

Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499
eMail: mueller at tropenklinik.de
Internet: www.tropenklinik.de
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Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. Februar 2013 16:37
An: vagy at freemail.gr
Cc: samba at lists.samba.org
Betreff: Re: [Samba] Cross-subnet browsing with LMBs + remote browse sync +
samba4WINS

From: vagy <vagy at freemail.gr>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:34:37 +0200
> i am about to implement cross subnet browsing/sharing and I was 
> wondering if the following configuration would do it, so i would like 
> your opinion:
> 
> 1. There are two subnets separated by a simple router (no firewalls)
> 
> 2. Each subnet will have a mixture of Win7/WinXP and Linux hosts.
> 
> 3. Each subnet will have its own Samba3 LMB (but not DMB) and its own 
> samba4WINS server. Each client host in each subnet will be DHCP 
> configured with their respective WINS server.
> The LMB will also be configured to use the samba4WINS server.
> 
> 4. The two samba3 LMB servers will "remote browse sync" with each
other.
> Thats how the browse lists will be exchanged.
> 
> 5. The two samba4WINS servers will replicate with each other.
> Thats how the host names will be exchanged.
> 
> Do you think that will turn out to be a working configuration?
As far as I examined, "remote browse sync" did not work as I expected.
Sample smb.conf that I examined the behavior is:

-----
[global]
  workgroup = SAMBAxx
  domain master = yes
  wins support = yes
  remote browse sync = x.x.x.x
-----

Samba has to be WINS server and DMB.

---
TAKAHASHI Motonobu <monyo at monyo.com> / @damemonyo 
                   facebook.com/takahashi.motonobu

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On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:06:50 +0200, Daniel M?ller
<mueller at tropenklinik.de> wrote:
> NO, you do not need remote browse sync if you have samba4wins working.
> And you need only following to make it work in your LMB smb.conf
> wins server = your.samba4wins.host
> If your smaba4wins is on the same host as your LMB, put this is your
> samba4wins
> Samba4wins.conf:
> bind interfaces only=yes
> interfaces=your.samba4wins.ip (suggestion use a virt ip not used by  
> samba)
> ntpd:disable_broadcast=yes
> wins server=your.samba4wins.ip
>
> In your windows clients network configuration  set wins1 your first
> samba4wins and wins2 the second samba4wins.
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> EDV Daniel M?ller
>
> Leitung EDV
> Tropenklinik Paul-Lechler-Krankenhaus
> Paul-Lechler-Str. 24
> 72076 T?bingen
>
> Tel.: 07071/206-463, Fax: 07071/206-499
> eMail: mueller at tropenklinik.de
> Internet: www.tropenklinik.de
> -----------------------------------------------
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: samba-bounces at lists.samba.org  
> [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org] Im
> Auftrag von TAKAHASHI Motonobu
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. Februar 2013 16:37
> An: vagy at freemail.gr
> Cc: samba at lists.samba.org
> Betreff: Re: [Samba] Cross-subnet browsing with LMBs + remote browse  
> sync +
> samba4WINS
>
> From: vagy <vagy at freemail.gr>
> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:34:37 +0200
>
>> i am about to implement cross subnet browsing/sharing and I was
>> wondering if the following configuration would do it, so i would like
>> your opinion:
>>
>> 1. There are two subnets separated by a simple router (no firewalls)
>>
>> 2. Each subnet will have a mixture of Win7/WinXP and Linux hosts.
>>
>> 3. Each subnet will have its own Samba3 LMB (but not DMB) and its own
>> samba4WINS server. Each client host in each subnet will be DHCP
>> configured with their respective WINS server.
>> The LMB will also be configured to use the samba4WINS server.
>>
>> 4. The two samba3 LMB servers will "remote browse sync" with
each other.
>> Thats how the browse lists will be exchanged.
>>
>> 5. The two samba4WINS servers will replicate with each other.
>> Thats how the host names will be exchanged.
>>
>> Do you think that will turn out to be a working configuration?
>
> As far as I examined, "remote browse sync" did not work as I
expected.
> Sample smb.conf that I examined the behavior is:
>
> -----
> [global]
>   workgroup = SAMBAxx
>   domain master = yes
>   wins support = yes
>   remote browse sync = x.x.x.x
> -----
>
> Samba has to be WINS server and DMB.
>
> ---
> TAKAHASHI Motonobu <monyo at monyo.com> / @damemonyo
>                    facebook.com/takahashi.motonobu
>
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Hi Daniel,

do you mean that since there is gonna
be a samba4WINS in each subnet, the browse lists
   from each subnet will get exchanged
between the two samba4WINS, so there is no need
for the two LMBs (my 4. point) to "remote browse sync"
between them? I had the impression that WINS servers
just map NETBIOS names to IP addresses and that WINS
clients just resolve names through them, at least according to
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc775524(v=ws.10).aspx ,
there is no mention there about the browse lists.
Can you please elaborate?

Cheers,
- vagy