Hallo, Simon (and Andrew), Du meintest am 08.02.11:>> in the samba mailinglist there was a remark that samba 4 is designed >> only for the BIND nameserver; look escpecially at >> >> http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2011-February/160848.html >> >> I know that most programmers work in their "free" time (me too). But >> I don't like working with the ISC DNS, and I'd like working with >> "dnsmasq" under samba 4 too.> My understanding of the situation is that full integration with AD > requires support for dynamic DNS and the ability to update DNS zones > with a fair variety of esoteric record types. To provide that sort of > facility in dnsmasq would require re-writing and generalising a lot > of code.[...] But what about people who want to use Samba without ADS, perhaps far away from a Windows environment? It's more simple to configure, it doesn't need specially trained operators. What about "Samba 4 light for SOHO"? I prefer using cifs instead of nfs, p.e., even in a LAN only with Linux clients. And there's no need for an ADS. There's no need for a DNS monster like ISC bind. Viele Gruesse! Helmut
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 10:45:00AM +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:> Hallo, Simon (and Andrew), > > Du meintest am 08.02.11: > > >> in the samba mailinglist there was a remark that samba 4 is designed > >> only for the BIND nameserver; look escpecially at > >> > >> http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2011-February/160848.html > >> > >> I know that most programmers work in their "free" time (me too). But > >> I don't like working with the ISC DNS, and I'd like working with > >> "dnsmasq" under samba 4 too. > > > My understanding of the situation is that full integration with AD > > requires support for dynamic DNS and the ability to update DNS zones > > with a fair variety of esoteric record types. To provide that sort of > > facility in dnsmasq would require re-writing and generalising a lot > > of code. > > [...] > > But what about people who want to use Samba without ADS, perhaps far > away from a Windows environment? It's more simple to configure, it > doesn't need specially trained operators. > > What about "Samba 4 light for SOHO"?That's called Samba3 ;-) Whatever the details of Samba4 will finally look like, there will always be a way to just run a very simple file server with local users. The required components for that will be part of what will be shipped as Samba version 4. With best regards, Volker Lendecke -- SerNet GmbH, Bahnhofsallee 1b, 37081 G?ttingen phone: +49-551-370000-0, fax: +49-551-370000-9 AG G?ttingen, HRB 2816, GF: Dr. Johannes Loxen
On 09/02/2011 12:45, Helmut Hullen wrote:> Hallo, Simon (and Andrew), > > Du meintest am 08.02.11: > >>> in the samba mailinglist there was a remark that samba 4 is designed >>> only for the BIND nameserver; look escpecially at >>> >>> http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2011-February/160848.html >>> >>> I know that most programmers work in their "free" time (me too). But >>> I don't like working with the ISC DNS, and I'd like working with >>> "dnsmasq" under samba 4 too. >> My understanding of the situation is that full integration with AD >> requires support for dynamic DNS and the ability to update DNS zones >> with a fair variety of esoteric record types. To provide that sort of >> facility in dnsmasq would require re-writing and generalising a lot >> of code. > [...] > > But what about people who want to use Samba without ADS, perhaps far > away from a Windows environment? It's more simple to configure, it > doesn't need specially trained operators. > > What about "Samba 4 light for SOHO"? > > I prefer using cifs instead of nfs, p.e., even in a LAN only with Linux > clients. And there's no need for an ADS. There's no need for a DNS > monster like ISC bind.Well in this case you can use the file server part only it's better for the moment to use the 3.x branch (current 3.5.7 and 3.6 is coming). When Samba 4.0 will be released you will still be able to provision a domain member or a standalone server and in this case bind won't be needed ! -- Matthieu Patou Samba Team http://samba.org Private repo http://git.samba.org/?p=mat/samba.git;a=summary