Nils Kalchhauser
2003-Nov-06 21:29 UTC
[Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)
Hi! the samba HOWTO collection says in chapter 5 that "Samba-3 supports the use of the Microsoft Management Console for user management", however a few lines further it says "MMC (Computer Management) Console can not be used to manage a Samba-3 server". now, is it possible to do user management with MMC? and if, how? the only MMC user manager I can find is Active Directory Users and Groups and it tells me, that it can not contact the domain controller. thanks, Nils
You should so called nexus tools ,usrmgr.exe to admin samba they work like charme ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nils Kalchhauser" <nils.kalchhauser@vollwerbung.at> To: <samba@lists.samba.org> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:29 PM Subject: [Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)> Hi! > > > the samba HOWTO collection says in chapter 5 that "Samba-3 supports the > use of the Microsoft Management Console for user management", however a > few lines further it says "MMC (Computer Management) Console can not be > used to manage a Samba-3 server". > > now, is it possible to do user management with MMC? and if, how? the only > MMC user manager I can find is Active Directory Users and Groups and it > tells me, that it can not contact the domain controller. > > > thanks, > Nils > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba >
John H Terpstra
2003-Nov-06 22:34 UTC
[Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Nils Kalchhauser wrote:> Hi! > > > the samba HOWTO collection says in chapter 5 that "Samba-3 supports the > use of the Microsoft Management Console for user management", however a > few lines further it says "MMC (Computer Management) Console can not be > used to manage a Samba-3 server". > > now, is it possible to do user management with MMC? and if, how? the only > MMC user manager I can find is Active Directory Users and Groups and it > tells me, that it can not contact the domain controller.You will find an updated version of this document at; samba.org/~jht/HOWTO/Samba-HOWTO-Collection.pdf The answer is: You can NOT use the Computer Management MMC to manage a Sambae server. You can use the NT4 Server Manager and the NT4 Domain User Manager to administer a Samba server. You CAN download the SRVTOOLS.EXE file, extract it on your Win2Kx machine and use these NT4 tools to manage your samba server. Thanks for the heads up. - John T. -- John H Terpstra Email: jht@samba.org
Jeremy Allison
2003-Nov-06 22:39 UTC
[Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:34:35PM +0000, John H Terpstra wrote:> > You can NOT use the Computer Management MMC to manage a Sambae server.Are you sure about that ? I used it during Samba 3 development and definately parts of it worked. Jeremy.
It works in parts but not in a whole cause its to deep inbound in active directory. So giving advice to use them would be no real advice for a stable use of samba Samba 3 can act as win nt 4 pdc and admined via with usrmgr and srvmgr without trouble Best Regards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Allison" <jra@samba.org> To: "John H Terpstra" <jht@samba.org> Cc: <samba@lists.samba.org> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)> On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:34:35PM +0000, John H Terpstra wrote: > > > > You can NOT use the Computer Management MMC to manage a Sambae server. > > Are you sure about that ? I used it during Samba 3 development > and definately parts of it worked. > > Jeremy. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba >
John H Terpstra
2003-Nov-06 22:51 UTC
[Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Jeremy Allison wrote:> On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:34:35PM +0000, John H Terpstra wrote: > > > > You can NOT use the Computer Management MMC to manage a Sambae server. > > Are you sure about that ? I used it during Samba 3 development > and definately parts of it worked.You can use it only to manage share ACLs. If in smb.conf there are scripts for creation of shares, etc. then it can be used for that also. It is not possible to use the Computer Management MMC to administer users and groups. It is not possible to do that for NT4 domains either using this tool. - John T. -- John H Terpstra Email: jht@samba.org
Nils Kalchhauser
2003-Nov-07 09:13 UTC
[Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)
"rruegner" <robowarp@gmx.de> wrote (Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:44:30 +0100):> It works in parts but not in a whole cause its to deep inbound in active > directory. > So giving advice to use them would be no real advice for a stable use of > samba > Samba 3 can act as win nt 4 pdc and admined via > with usrmgr and srvmgr without troublethanks for your answers... I tried srvtools.exe too, but the user manager has "New User..." greyed out and editing an existing user just does not work. however, listing the exsting users with their real names works. now some of you suggest that the nt4 usermgr really works nice... what can be done with it? thanks, Nils
John H Terpstra
2003-Nov-07 09:18 UTC
[Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Nils Kalchhauser wrote:> "rruegner" <robowarp@gmx.de> wrote (Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:44:30 +0100): > > It works in parts but not in a whole cause its to deep inbound in active > > directory. > > So giving advice to use them would be no real advice for a stable use of > > samba > > Samba 3 can act as win nt 4 pdc and admined via > > with usrmgr and srvmgr without trouble > > thanks for your answers... > > I tried srvtools.exe too, but the user manager has "New User..." greyed > out and editing an existing user just does not work. however, listing the > exsting users with their real names works. > > now some of you suggest that the nt4 usermgr really works nice... what can > be done with it?If you logon using the administrator (root) account and log onto the Domain you should be able to administer uses and groups using the NT4 Domain User Manager. If this does not work, it means your configuration if whacky. - John T. -- John H Terpstra Email: jht@samba.org
Keith Williams
2003-Nov-10 06:32 UTC
[Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)
Hi there, In a scenarion where you only have a Samba3 PDC can one also use these tools? Is it possible to run these usrmgr and srvmgr from NT on a Win2000 workstation? Where can one find these tools? Download? Thanks in advance Keith Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "John H Terpstra" <jht@samba.org> To: "Nils Kalchhauser" <nils.kalchhauser@vollwerbung.at> Cc: <samba@lists.samba.org> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Nils Kalchhauser wrote: > > > "rruegner" <robowarp@gmx.de> wrote (Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:44:30 +0100): > > > It works in parts but not in a whole cause its to deep inbound inactive> > > directory. > > > So giving advice to use them would be no real advice for a stable useof> > > samba > > > Samba 3 can act as win nt 4 pdc and admined via > > > with usrmgr and srvmgr without trouble > > > > thanks for your answers... > > > > I tried srvtools.exe too, but the user manager has "New User..." greyed > > out and editing an existing user just does not work. however, listingthe> > exsting users with their real names works. > > > > now some of you suggest that the nt4 usermgr really works nice... whatcan> > be done with it? > > If you logon using the administrator (root) account and log onto the > Domain you should be able to administer uses and groups using the NT4 > Domain User Manager. If this does not work, it means your configuration if > whacky. > > - John T. > -- > John H Terpstra > Email: jht@samba.org > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba >
yes you can use this tools with win2k or other version win98x they are on Nt server cd resource kit or ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/Softlib/MSLFILES/NEXUS.EXE Best Regards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Williams" <keith@williamscn.co.za> To: <samba@lists.samba.org> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console)> Hi there, > > In a scenarion where you only have a Samba3 PDC can one also use these > tools? > > Is it possible to run these usrmgr and srvmgr from NT on a Win2000 > workstation? > > Where can one find these tools? Download? > > Thanks in advance > > Keith Williams > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John H Terpstra" <jht@samba.org> > To: "Nils Kalchhauser" <nils.kalchhauser@vollwerbung.at> > Cc: <samba@lists.samba.org> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba 3 and MMC (Microsoft Management Console) > > > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Nils Kalchhauser wrote: > > > > > "rruegner" <robowarp@gmx.de> wrote (Thu, 6 Nov 2003 23:44:30 +0100): > > > > It works in parts but not in a whole cause its to deep inbound in > active > > > > directory. > > > > So giving advice to use them would be no real advice for a stableuse> of > > > > samba > > > > Samba 3 can act as win nt 4 pdc and admined via > > > > with usrmgr and srvmgr without trouble > > > > > > thanks for your answers... > > > > > > I tried srvtools.exe too, but the user manager has "New User..."greyed> > > out and editing an existing user just does not work. however, listing > the > > > exsting users with their real names works. > > > > > > now some of you suggest that the nt4 usermgr really works nice... what > can > > > be done with it? > > > > If you logon using the administrator (root) account and log onto the > > Domain you should be able to administer uses and groups using the NT4 > > Domain User Manager. If this does not work, it means your configurationif> > whacky. > > > > - John T. > > -- > > John H Terpstra > > Email: jht@samba.org > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > > instructions: lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba >