In addition to my last two messages about Samba updating the password foor root when unix sync is desired: I have found out the cause of this password change thing. With the parm "passwd chat debug = Yes" and "log level = 100" When I look in the logs while changing the password with unix sync, the following happens: [2001/03/27 09:34:20, 10, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] smbd/chgpasswd.c:dochild(184) Invoking '/usr/bin/passwd' as password change program. <=====================[2001/03/27 09:34:20, 100, effective(1001, 100), real(0, 0)] smbd/chgpasswd.c:expect(229) expect: expected [* *ew password*] received [Changing local password for root. <=================== New password:] When I add the parm "passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u", the log looks like this: [2001/03/27 09:48:46, 10, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] smbd/chgpasswd.c:dochild(184) Invoking '/usr/bin/passwd operator1' as password change program. <==============[2001/03/27 09:48:47, 100, effective(1001, 100), real(0, 0)] smbd/chgpasswd.c:expect(229) expect: expected [* *ew password*] received [Changing local password for operator1. <=============== New password:] This parm should not be neccesary, because it is the default. What can be the cause that is is in my case NOT the default?? anyone any ideas??, can FreeBSD be the "problem"? Are there others who have the same thing, or am I alone in this universe? Also still having the question if it is possible to force a periodic password change. thanks in advance Jeroen Heijungs Het Muziektheater Amsterdam, The Netherlands