In the web it states HP does support samba and there is a link. Following this link I read nothing about samba, it may be wrong. Can someone point me to the right link please ? This is very very important for me. Thank you.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HP, in their own inimitable way, will release the product as "CIFS/9000". More then likely, it will be a replacement (or a more advanced version) of their ASU/9000 LanMan product (Advanced Server for Unix). Having had to play with ASU/9000 and HP's all-time favorite game of "oh, you need a patch, but for that patch, you need these reboot-the-system-after-install patches, too. Oh, and if the system breaks after those patches, well, then you shouldn't have installed them", I'd not touch CIFS for a while. Get the LanMan product, it's stable and fairly nice. - -----Original Message----- From: samba@samba.org [mailto:samba@samba.org]On Behalf Of Francesc Guasch Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 14:36 To: Multiple recipients of list SAMBA Subject: HP supporting samba In the web it states HP does support samba and there is a link. Following this link I read nothing about samba, it may be wrong. Can someone point me to the right link please ? This is very very important for me. Thank you. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.1 Int. for non-commercial use <http://www.pgpinternational.com> iQA/AwUBOLi0elR8Yh25VFLEEQKVTgCghDHWRNjyPdM2aUmpFHRP+z3HWiAAoKgn 4a8etJMB7QYkikFacXi009Vs =aOdo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Francesc Guasch wrote:> > In the web it states HP does support samba and there is > a link. Following this link I read nothing about samba, > it may be wrong. > > Can someone point me to the right link please ? > > This is very very important for me. > > Thank you.Check out the link at HP : http://www.unixsolutions.hp.com/products/cifs.html This is HP's Samba product. Regards, Jeremy Allison, Samba Team. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Buying an operating system without source is like buying a self-assembly Space Shuttle with no instructions. --------------------------------------------------------
ulairi wrote: | HP, in their own inimitable way, will release the product as "CIFS/9000". | More then likely, it will be a replacement (or a more advanced version) of | their ASU/9000 LanMan product (Advanced Server for Unix). They've admitted it's actually Samba, and will be submitting some of their changes back to the community... | Having had to play with ASU/9000 and HP's all-time favorite game of | "oh, you need a patch, but for that patch, you need these | reboot-the-system-after-install patches, too. Oh, and if the system | breaks after those patches, well, then you shouldn't have installed | them", I'd not touch CIFS for a while. I'll bet you have an H-P 800 series system (;-)) The 700 folks are civil and helpful: if you have the choice, run your services on 700s. A **huge** imaging system using hot-failover 800s had to have it's terabyte 8"-WORM stackers run on non- redundant 715s because the 800 folks didn't think scsi pass-through was important enough to escalate (;-)) --dave -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify some people 185 Ellerslie Ave., | and astonish the rest. -- Mark Twain Willowdale, Ontario | //www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/author.html Work: (905) 415-2849 Home: (416) 223-8968 Email: davecb@canada.sun.com
I haven't looked, but isn't there some kind of notification required by the GPL that credit be given, and source be provided?> -----Original Message----- > From: Roberto Mello [SMTP:robertom@ssit.usu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 9:24 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list SAMBA > Subject: Re: HP supporting samba > > I wish HP would more widely recognize that their "CIFS/9000" product > is based > on free software, Samba. I could only find the word "Samba" mentioned > twice and > in the Q&A. Not once in the fancy description of all the "features" of > "CIFS/9000". > I am glad that at least they said they will give the enhancements > back to the > community. > > []s, > > Roberto Mello > > > Check out the link at HP : > > > > http://www.unixsolutions.hp.com/products/cifs.html > > > > This is HP's Samba product. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jeremy Allison, > > Samba Team. > > /*----------------------- Roberto Mello ------------------------ > Utah State University - Computer Science > USU Free Software and GNU/Linux Club http://linux.usu.edu > GNU/Linux para quem fala portugues http://linux.brasileiro.net > ---------- PAPA, WHAT MEANS 'FORMATTING DRIVE C:' ? -----------
In regard to HP supporting SAMBA, they seem to be going full bore on it as they are losing their customer base at a frightening rate. Unfortunately, HP is one of those companies that has most of their customers by the short hairs and treats them that way. It was not more than a year ago and HP was blaming all of our Server and Network problems on SAMBA, then it was SGI, then it was NT. The most incredible statment made by one of their Sr. Technical people on site was the HP's don't work well in "Mixed" Environments because they are the only one's that have a compliant O/S and software packages, NFS, AS/U, etc. As in SGI and SUN's NFS PV3 won't work with HP's NFS PV2 becuse it is non compliant. How about "Outdated" and a bad port to begin with. In reality, it is the fact that their hardware and software are/were not up to the task of handling NFS and SMB file serving in an enterprise CAD/CAM environment. We had gone to the extent of Demo-ing and bechmarking literally all major venors hardware and software solutions -- Net Appliance, SUN, SGI, etc, etc. We finally got a New HP N-Class box, serial #1 I think after about a year of this activity. No SAMBA for the HP though (supported). We finally settled on a very ellegant SGI Server architecture with NFS PV3 and SAMBA as the solution. This was based on solid testing and bechmarks. When HP found out, our sales rep escalated this to their TOP Brass. One of their VP's called one of our VP's and the Shi-Hit-The-Fan. We are now ordering an HP N-Class, a J-Class, and possible a little token SGI. It is so nice that an entire Fortune 50's corporate enterprise CAD/CAM infrastructure can be dictated by a salesman. Scary huh! Concerning HP's comment on customers worries about running "Free", PD or GNU licensed software. How about the fact that HP purchased Apollo to get into the workstation business, then dropped the Domain O/S and picked up the AT&T System V Release 2 that was put into the public domain in 1986. AT&T was smart enough to do a complete rewrite of the O/S, hence SYS V R3 & R4 which is licensed source code and now owned by Novell I believe. As far as I know most all other vendors have kept up with the game. Up through HP/UX 9.x, the O/S was based entirely on the AT&T R2 Kernel, 10.x was a merged product, 11.x is supposed to be V4 compliant, and I guess that 12.x is possbily a rewrite. Hey! They got a new interface -- CDE, and finally a keyboard that you can type on (IBM Selectric). LOL! HP is now going through the same hickup period that Apple went through with the release of System 7, and SUN did jumping from their Sun O/S (BSD) product to Solaris. There is not a lot of backward compatability with the applications, and in many cases the hardware. Their soulution is to buy a new N-Class server, run Samba and whatever, your Mission Critical Oracal RDBMS, and hope like hell that they will throw enough resources at you to keep you going. After all, they have a less experience than most of us when it comes to Samba would be my guess, although they claim to be up to snuff and have "Been on board all along", again, LOL. We'll see. Their next big challenge -- LINUX HP Flames Off. I thank the SAMBA Team, and the LINUX Team for all of their efforts in bringing much needed software to the masses -- and rubbing HP's nose in something. BTW: My comments and opinions are mine and do not reflect those of my employer -- Best regards, Peter Bye Lead Analyst High Performance & Technical Computing pcbye@mmm.com "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein --