The problem: attempting to connect to a samba network drive from a Windows 98 machine gives me the error message: "Not logged on". Background: We have been running samba to serve a number of w95 clients for a couple of years. Some of the clients are remote and we don't bother with running nmbd(8), so all clients have LMHOSTS files. The problem is related to a new W98 machine that we have just acquired. While we've never had any problems with W95 machines, the new one just refuses to connect. I have tried a few of the tricks in DIAGNOSIS.txt, but to no avail. 1. Ping and WWW to the server works, so there clearly is an established connection. 2. W95 clients work flawlessly with the same setup (PPP dialup). 3. I have "encrypt passwords = yes", as required by W98. It seems that the client never even attempts to connect to the server. Doing a "NET VIEW" or "NET USE" on the client gives a "Not logged on" error, while trying "NET LOGON" says ~"Can't logon from DOS-prompt"~. How am I supposed to "log on" on the W98 client in order to be able to make an SMB connection? Has anyone else had this problem?
Mikkel L. Ellertson
2000-Jan-23 21:27 UTC
Remote win98 refusing to connect to samba server
At 06:41 AM 1/24/00 +1100, Elias Lofgren wrote:>The problem: attempting to connect to a samba network drive from a >Windows 98 machine gives me the error message: "Not logged on". > >Background: > >We have been running samba to serve a number of w95 clients for a couple >of years. Some of the clients are remote and we don't bother with running >nmbd(8), so all clients have LMHOSTS files. > >The problem is related to a new W98 machine that we have just acquired. >While we've never had any problems with W95 machines, the new one just >refuses to connect. > >I have tried a few of the tricks in DIAGNOSIS.txt, but to no avail. > >1. Ping and WWW to the server works, so there clearly is an established > connection. >2. W95 clients work flawlessly with the same setup (PPP dialup). >3. I have "encrypt passwords = yes", as required by W98. > > >It seems that the client never even attempts to connect to the server. > >Doing a "NET VIEW" or "NET USE" on the client gives a "Not logged on" >error, while trying "NET LOGON" says ~"Can't logon from DOS-prompt"~. > >How am I supposed to "log on" on the W98 client in order to be able >to make an SMB connection? > >Has anyone else had this problem? > >Do you get a login prompt when you start Windows 98? This is normaly where you log in. If you do not get the prompt, go to the control panel, select networking, and add client for Microsoft network.>From the sounds of things, you it is probably not installed.Also, check that the primary network logon is Client for Microsoft Network. You can also check the start menu, to see if it offers a logon option. I know when you are logged into a network, it offers a logoff option. (I would test it now, but I need the network connection...) Mikkel Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Mikkel L. Ellertson <mikkel@execpc.com> wrote:>Do you get a login prompt when you start Windows 98? This is normaly >where you log in. If you do not get the prompt, go to the control >panel, select networking, and add client for Microsoft network.No, I am not getting the login prompt, but I do have Microsoft Network client enabled. Originally the box had something called "Microsoft Family" installed as a network client, but I deleted it (assuming that "client for MS Network" would be sufficient).>From the sounds of things, you it is probably not installed. >Also, check that the primary network logon is Client for Microsoft >Network.Yes, the primary network logon is set to "Client for Microsoft Network".>You can also check the start menu, to see if it offers a logon option. >I know when you are logged into a network, it offers a logoff option. >(I would test it now, but I need the network connection...) > >MikkelYes, I get the logoff option ("Log off USER" in the Start menu) I have set up the new machine just like the others we have, the only difference is that this is the first Windows 98 box (all the others are Windows 95). Regards, Elias
On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:15:49 +1100, hai scritto:>No, I am not getting the login prompt, but I do have Microsoft Network >client enabled. Originally the box had something called "Microsoft >Family" installed as a network client, but I deleted it (assuming that >"client for MS Network" would be sufficient).http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q141/8/58.asp delete the key: HKLM\Software\ Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Network\Real Mode Net AutoLogon -- giulioo@pobox.com
Well, I'm really stumped: Giulio Orsero <giulioo@pobox.com> wrote:>>No, I am not getting the login prompt, but I do have Microsoft Network >>client enabled. Originally the box had something called "Microsoft >>Family" installed as a network client, but I deleted it (assuming that >>"client for MS Network" would be sufficient).=20 > >http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q141/8/58.asp >delete the key: >HKLM\Software\ Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Network\Real Mode Net =20 >AutoLogon >I don't have this key on the machine. I can certainly get a logon prompt if I set it up that way, but it doesn't make the problem go away. On W95 I don't *need* the logon prompt, I can "Attach network drive" just as well without it. Since the box will only be connected occasionally, the network drive shouldn't be attached automatically. John LeMay <jlemay@njmc.com> wrote:>This is actually a well known problem with Win98, however I do not have >the actual fix handy. There are a couple of things to try, however. >First, delete any files with the "pwl" extention in the Windows >directory (assuming this is where Windows is installed). Reboot. If you >still have no logon prompt, try incorporating the attached reg file into >your registry.I did this (deleted the *.pwl files). Got the logon prompt. Still refuses to attach network drive ("Not logged on").>If that doesn't work, I'm sure someone here probably knows the correct >bit to flip. I thought it was somewhere in the neighborhood of >HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP, however I can't seem >to find the key.Interesting. What would this key control? Anyone know the full name? "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@execpc.com> wrote:>Well, if all else fails, you can try the standard windows fix - remove >the Client for Microsoft Networks, reboot, and re-install it. I know >it works well for printer problems, so it may help... >I did this too, no difference :-( This is a really weird problem, I assume there are thousands of people using W98SE clients... Does anyone have a step-by-step description of configuring W98 boxes to use samba (since the steps used for W95 are not sufficient)??? It's curious to note that the error message doesn't have any relation to the address typed in the dialog box. If I type garbage I still get the same response. It *does*, however, insist on having an active network connection and will attempt a dialup if there isn't. As soon as the dialup completes, I get the error message. I don't detect any network traffic to my server (as logged by TCP wrappers). Any other suggestions???
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