Ashley Moran
2008-Oct-02 03:30 UTC
[rspec-users] Slides from my talk on Cucumber + Celerity + RSpec tonight
Hi all Just ran a session known as a "huddle" in GeekUp terms. GeekUp[1] is a group of monthly events in North West England. The Sheffield one starts with a huddle every month, which is intended to have more audience participation than a pure talk. For this one, I got an unsuspecting audience (of developers, designers, business analysts, project managers, and itinerant alcoholics stumbling past our end of the bar) writing user stories and fighting^H^H^H^H^H discussing in a civilised manner which was most important. Second half was a tech demo, and they all loved Cucumber. So hats off to everyone involved in RSpec Stories and to Aslak for its recent re- incarnation, it had a room full of geeks going "I want that for my PHP code!". Slides are on my blog[2] for anyone that wants a flick through, or to find out more about what went on. Ashley [1] http://geekup.org/ [2] http://aviewfromafar.net/2008/10/2/geekup-sheffield-vi-from-specification-to-success -- http://www.patchspace.co.uk/ http://aviewfromafar.net/
aslak hellesoy
2008-Oct-02 05:07 UTC
[rspec-users] Slides from my talk on Cucumber + Celerity + RSpec tonight
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Ashley Moran <ashley.moran at patchspace.co.uk> wrote:> Hi all > > Just ran a session known as a "huddle" in GeekUp terms. GeekUp[1] is a > group of monthly events in North West England. The Sheffield one starts > with a huddle every month, which is intended to have more audience > participation than a pure talk. For this one, I got an unsuspecting > audience (of developers, designers, business analysts, project managers, and > itinerant alcoholics stumbling past our end of the bar) writing user stories > and fighting^H^H^H^H^H discussing in a civilised manner which was most > important. > > Second half was a tech demo, and they all loved Cucumber. So hats off to > everyone involved in RSpec Stories and to Aslak for its recent > re-incarnation, it had a room full of geeks going "I want that for my PHP > code!". > > Slides are on my blog[2] for anyone that wants a flick through, or to find > out more about what went on. >Thanks a lot for sharing Ashley. This is a really good introduction to BDD. Short enough to be graspable for people who are new to it - long enough to be really valuable. I can imagine you had a good time! I really like that you started off by talking about business value (So that). The two sentences about acceptance criteria (verifiable by humans and discrete for machines) really nail down what BDD acceptance criteria are about. I''m ccing the Celerity crew - they also live here in Oslo. BTW - if you are developing an open source conference organising tool, please let me know. I''ve written two that suck (one in Rails, one as a Radiant extension) and I want something good for the next conference I organise. Cheers, Aslak> Ashley > > [1] http://geekup.org/ > [2] > http://aviewfromafar.net/2008/10/2/geekup-sheffield-vi-from-specification-to-success > > -- > http://www.patchspace.co.uk/ > http://aviewfromafar.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >
Ashley Moran
2008-Oct-02 10:30 UTC
[rspec-users] Slides from my talk on Cucumber + Celerity + RSpec tonight
On Oct 02, 2008, at 6:07 am, aslak hellesoy wrote:> Thanks a lot for sharing Ashley. > > This is a really good introduction to BDD. Short enough to be > graspable for people who are new to it - long enough to be really > valuable. I can imagine you had a good time! I really like that you > started off by talking about business value (So that). The two > sentences about acceptance criteria (verifiable by humans and discrete > for machines) really nail down what BDD acceptance criteria are about.Hi Aslak Yeah! It was fun. The interactivity worked better than I expected. I think it made it sink in too. One thing I''ve learnt about stories is they are very academic until users see real software that implements them.> I''m ccing the Celerity crew - they also live here in Oslo.I haven''t used it extensively but I''m already a big fan of it. One guy last night said that Cucumber + Celerity has completely renewed his interest in automated acceptance testing, after giving up on FIT and Selenium. He says it''s also the excuse he needs to learn Ruby (he does all C-pound right now), or at least enough to write Cucumber files. And another guy grabbed the slides off me so he could get JRuby set up for a new team to use today! The new killer app (combo) for Ruby? :o)> BTW - if you are developing an open source conference organising tool, > please let me know. I''ve written two that suck (one in Rails, one as a > Radiant extension) and I want something good for the next conference I > organise.We''re doing it specifically for BarCamp Sheffield 2008 (end of November) at first, but I''d love to expand it. When''s your next conference likely to be? Ashley -- http://www.patchspace.co.uk/ http://aviewfromafar.net/