RSpecrs, I''ve been running into some trouble lately when passing mock objects into rich views. Either I have to obscure my specs by stubbing every method the view would call on my object, or I have to resort to trickery like stubbing ActionController#render, which is also less than ideal. The solution I''ve some up with is a variant on the :null_object option that can be passed to the mock factory. Null objects return themselves from any unstubbed method call. The option I''ve added changes that return value to nil, which doesn''t play so well with method chaining, but does work nicely in most views. The question for you all is: what should the syntax look like? We''ve considered a couple of options but found them lacking. They are m = mock(''returns nil'', :nil_object => true) m = mock(''returns nil'', :null_object => :returns_nil) Hopefully someone on the list can come up with something more compelling. Another idea that just came to me (funny how lunch break has that effect): m = mock(''returns nil'', :default => nil) could be useful like this also m = mock(''returns 5'', :default => 5) and if you allow the default value to be a lambda that takes the mock as an argument, you can make :null_object a special case: m = mock(''returns self'', :default => lambda{|m| m}) but now I''m just getting silly. -- Chris Anderson http://jchris.mfdz.com