Hi, If I''m going to start developing a new rails based web application, should I go for Rails 3 or Rails 2.3.8 ? why this and not the other ? Thank you. Dani -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Dani Dani wrote:> Hi, > If I''m going to start developing a new rails based web application, > should I go for Rails 3 or Rails 2.3.8 ? why this and not the other ? > Thank you. > DaniFrom what I''ve seen even though Rails 2.3.8 is supposedly the current "stable" version of Rails, I''m betting that Rails 3.0 is actually more "stable." I''m planning to skip from 2.3.5 straight to Rails 3.0 (with possibly a brief stop at 2.3.8 just to maybe ease the transition to Rails 3.0). However, I so plan to go straight from 2.3.5 to 3.0 on my deployment server. If it were me starting something new, I would mostly likely go with Rails 3.0. There are a lot of really great new features and chance are likely that Rails 3.0 will be officially release before you''re ready to deploy. However, there are other things to consider. Like where you plan to host the site and whether they are ready for Rails 3.0. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 23 August 2010 17:13, Robert Walker <lists-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Dani Dani wrote: >> Hi, >> If I''m going to start developing a new rails based web application, >> should I go for Rails 3 or Rails 2.3.8 ? why this and not the other ? >> Thank you. >> Dani > > From what I''ve seen even though Rails 2.3.8 is supposedly the current > "stable" version of Rails, I''m betting that Rails 3.0 is actually more > "stable." I''m planning to skip from 2.3.5 straight to Rails 3.0 (with > possibly a brief stop at 2.3.8 just to maybe ease the transition to > Rails 3.0). However, I so plan to go straight from 2.3.5 to 3.0 on my > deployment server. > > If it were me starting something new, I would mostly likely go with > Rails 3.0. There are a lot of really great new features and chance are > likely that Rails 3.0 will be officially release before you''re ready to > deploy. > > However, there are other things to consider. Like where you plan to host > the site and whether they are ready for Rails 3.0.If you are not already experienced with Rails I would also consider the fact there is a lot more help, tutorials, and so on available for 2.3 Colin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
if you know RUBY very well, not rails, than there is no problem, go for rails 3. but if the reverse is true, if you know RAILS well not ruby, which most of people do, then stick with 2.3.8 On Aug 23, 5:55 pm, Dani Dani <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi, > If I''m going to start developing a new rails based web application, > should I go for Rails 3 or Rails 2.3.8 ? why this and not the other ? > Thank you. > Dani > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 23 August 2010 19:31, gkaykck <gkaykck-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> if you know RUBY very well, not rails, than there is no problem, go > for rails 3. > but if the reverse is true, if you know RAILS well not ruby, which > most of people do, then stick with 2.3.8Can you explain the logic of that please? Colin> > On Aug 23, 5:55 pm, Dani Dani <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> Hi, >> If I''m going to start developing a new rails based web application, >> should I go for Rails 3 or Rails 2.3.8 ? why this and not the other ? >> Thank you. >> Dani >> -- >> Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
the logic behind it is, if you encounter a problem while using rails 3, your past rails knowledge will not save you and you will spent more time while searching answers than developing your application, but if your ruby background is good, than you can easily solve the problems you''ll encounter. On Aug 23, 10:45 pm, Colin Law <clan...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 23 August 2010 19:31, gkaykck <gkay...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > if you know RUBY very well, not rails, than there is no problem, go > > for rails 3. > > but if the reverse is true, if you know RAILS well not ruby, which > > most of people do, then stick with 2.3.8 > > Can you explain the logic of that please? > > Colin > > > > > On Aug 23, 5:55 pm, Dani Dani <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> If I''m going to start developing a new rails based web application, > >> should I go for Rails 3 or Rails 2.3.8 ? why this and not the other ? > >> Thank you. > >> Dani > >> -- > >> Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Rails 3.0 You don''t want to bother about upgrading later. On Aug 23, 10:55 am, Dani Dani <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi, > If I''m going to start developing a new rails based web application, > should I go for Rails 3 or Rails 2.3.8 ? why this and not the other ? > Thank you. > Dani > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Thank you all. When is Rails 3 will be announced officially ? Dani -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 24 August 2010 07:06, gkaykck <gkaykck-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> the logic behind it is, if you encounter a problem while using rails > 3, your past rails knowledge will not save you and you will spent more > time while searching answers than developing your application,I am not sure about that. The advantage that an experienced Rails developer has is that when he has a problem he knows that it is a Rails 3 issue rather than a lack of understanding of Rails itself. Colin> but if > your ruby background is good, than you can easily solve the problems > you''ll encounter. > > On Aug 23, 10:45 pm, Colin Law <clan...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> On 23 August 2010 19:31, gkaykck <gkay...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> > if you know RUBY very well, not rails, than there is no problem, go >> > for rails 3. >> > but if the reverse is true, if you know RAILS well not ruby, which >> > most of people do, then stick with 2.3.8 >> >> Can you explain the logic of that please? >> >> Colin >> >> >> >> > On Aug 23, 5:55 pm, Dani Dani <li...-fsXkhYbjdPsEEoCn2XhGlw@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> If I''m going to start developing a new rails based web application, >> >> should I go for Rails 3 or Rails 2.3.8 ? why this and not the other ? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Dani >> >> -- >> >> Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 24 Aug 2010, at 10:16, Dani Dani wrote:> Thank you all. > > When is Rails 3 will be announced officially ?http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2010/8/24/rails-3-0-release-candidate-2 Best regards Peter De Berdt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
In my personal opinion it is good to start NEW projects in Rails3 — RC1 was pretty stable and I had no problems with developing my apps in the new framework :) But there is a little problem with some plugins, some of them need to use exact version, branch or so :) So my answer is: "Start developing new apps with new Rails3" :) On 24 Sie, 10:27, Peter De Berdt <peter.de.be...-LPO8gxj9N8aZIoH1IeqzKA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On 24 Aug 2010, at 10:16, Dani Dani wrote: > > > Thank you all. > > > When is Rails 3 will be announced officially ? > > http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2010/8/24/rails-3-0-release-candidate-2 > > Best regards > > Peter De Berdt-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On 24 Aug 2010, at 10:59, Paweł K wrote:> In my personal opinion it is good to start NEW projects in Rails3 — > RC1 was pretty stable and I had no problems with developing my apps in > the new framework :) But there is a little problem with some plugins, > some of them need to use exact version, branch or so :) > > So my answer is: "Start developing new apps with new Rails3" :)... keeping in mind that just about every resource on the web except for Rails 3 specific ones and the Rails 3 API will have outdated information. A lot has changed in Rails 3 (for the better), but the significant changes to initialization (bundler), plugin hooks, ActiveRecord (arel), ActionPack etc might make it harder since you will have very little to no help available on the web. It all depends on how much time you have to get the hang of the new version. Us seasoned Rails developers have it a bit easier, since we only need to get rid of old habits. Do check out the Railscasts.com screencasts on Rails 3, they can come in quite useful. Also, given the vibrant Rails community, it probably won''t take long for Rails 3 posts to pop up everywhere. That said, it''s a good idea to start developing in Rails 3 right away, but keep what I''ve said in mind :-) Best regards Peter De Berdt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.