So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: http://www.rubyonrails.com BTW, a 1-week ban on logo dissidence is in effect. Ending January 4th, 2005. Until then, I''m really not interested in hearing more about how you might think Hicks dropped the ball or that something doesn''t align to your likings. Thank you for your cooperation, goodnight! -- David Heinemeier Hansson, http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby http://macromates.com/ -- TextMate: Code and markup editor (OS X) http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain
Hey David, maybe you dropped the ball by not having a logo competition. Cause you know, I''d put a big shiny choo choo somewhere in that logo. -Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Heinemeier Hansson" <david-OiTZALl8rpK0mm7Ywyx6yg@public.gmane.org> To: <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:42 PM Subject: [Rails] New Rails website goes on the air!> So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: > > http://www.rubyonrails.com > > BTW, a 1-week ban on logo dissidence is in effect. Ending January 4th, > 2005. Until then, I''m really not interested in hearing more about how > you might think Hicks dropped the ball or that something doesn''t align > to your likings. > > Thank you for your cooperation, goodnight! > -- > David Heinemeier Hansson, > http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby > http://macromates.com/ -- TextMate: Code and markup editor (OS X) > http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Stop caring about the color of the bike shed! [paste from http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/16.19.shtml] : ``What is it about this bike shed?'''' Some of you have asked me. It is a long story, or rather it is an old story, but it is quite short actually. C. Northcote Parkinson wrote a book in the early 1960s, called ``Parkinson''s Law'''', which contains a lot of insight into the dynamics of management. [snip a bit of commentary on the book] In the specific example involving the bike shed, the other vital component is an atomic power-plant, I guess that illustrates the age of the book. Parkinson shows how you can go into the board of directors and get approval for building a multi-million or even billion dollar atomic power plant, but if you want to build a bike shed you will be tangled up in endless discussions. Parkinson explains that this is because an atomic plant is so vast, so expensive and so complicated that people cannot grasp it, and rather than try, they fall back on the assumption that somebody else checked all the details before it got this far. Richard P. Feynmann gives a couple of interesting, and very much to the point, examples relating to Los Alamos in his books. A bike shed on the other hand. Anyone can build one of those over a weekend, and still have time to watch the game on TV. So no matter how well prepared, no matter how reasonable you are with your proposal, somebody will seize the chance to show that he is doing his job, that he is paying attention, that he is here. In Denmark we call it ``setting your fingerprint''''. It is about personal pride and prestige, it is about being able to point somewhere and say ``There! I did that.'''' It is a strong trait in politicians, but present in most people given the chance. Just think about footsteps in wet cement. On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:52:52 -0700, Jeffrey Moss <jeff-61uStg5MtoFWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hey David, maybe you dropped the ball by not having a logo competition. > > Cause you know, I''d put a big shiny choo choo somewhere in that logo. > > -Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Heinemeier Hansson" <david-OiTZALl8rpK0mm7Ywyx6yg@public.gmane.org> > To: <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:42 PM > Subject: [Rails] New Rails website goes on the air! > > > So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: > > > > http://www.rubyonrails.com > > > > BTW, a 1-week ban on logo dissidence is in effect. Ending January 4th, > > 2005. Until then, I''m really not interested in hearing more about how > > you might think Hicks dropped the ball or that something doesn''t align > > to your likings. > > > > Thank you for your cooperation, goodnight! > > -- > > David Heinemeier Hansson, > > http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management > > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby > > http://macromates.com/ -- TextMate: Code and markup editor (OS X) > > http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Tobi http://blog.leetsoft.com
Awesome. It''s a great analogy that I hadn''t heard. On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:12:39 -0500, Tobias Luetke <tobias.luetke-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Stop caring about the color of the bike shed! > > [paste from http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/16.19.shtml] : > > ``What is it about this bike shed?'''' Some of you have asked me. > > It is a long story, or rather it is an old story, but it is quite > short actually. C. Northcote Parkinson wrote a book in the early > 1960s, called ``Parkinson''s Law'''', which contains a lot of insight > into the dynamics of management. > > [snip a bit of commentary on the book] > > In the specific example involving the bike shed, the other vital > component is an atomic power-plant, I guess that illustrates the age > of the book. > > Parkinson shows how you can go into the board of directors and get > approval for building a multi-million or even billion dollar atomic > power plant, but if you want to build a bike shed you will be tangled > up in endless discussions. > > Parkinson explains that this is because an atomic plant is so vast, so > expensive and so complicated that people cannot grasp it, and rather > than try, they fall back on the assumption that somebody else checked > all the details before it got this far. Richard P. Feynmann gives a > couple of interesting, and very much to the point, examples relating > to Los Alamos in his books. > > A bike shed on the other hand. Anyone can build one of those over a > weekend, and still have time to watch the game on TV. So no matter how > well prepared, no matter how reasonable you are with your proposal, > somebody will seize the chance to show that he is doing his job, that > he is paying attention, that he is here. > > In Denmark we call it ``setting your fingerprint''''. It is about > personal pride and prestige, it is about being able to point somewhere > and say ``There! I did that.'''' It is a strong trait in politicians, > but present in most people given the chance. Just think about > footsteps in wet cement. > > > On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:52:52 -0700, Jeffrey Moss <jeff-61uStg5MtoFWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Hey David, maybe you dropped the ball by not having a logo competition. > > > > Cause you know, I''d put a big shiny choo choo somewhere in that logo. > > > > -Jeff > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Heinemeier Hansson" <david-OiTZALl8rpK0mm7Ywyx6yg@public.gmane.org> > > To: <rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org> > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:42 PM > > Subject: [Rails] New Rails website goes on the air! > > > > > So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: > > > > > > http://www.rubyonrails.com > > > > > > BTW, a 1-week ban on logo dissidence is in effect. Ending January 4th, > > > 2005. Until then, I''m really not interested in hearing more about how > > > you might think Hicks dropped the ball or that something doesn''t align > > > to your likings. > > > > > > Thank you for your cooperation, goodnight! > > > -- > > > David Heinemeier Hansson, > > > http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management > > > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby > > > http://macromates.com/ -- TextMate: Code and markup editor (OS X) > > > http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > -- > Tobi > http://blog.leetsoft.com > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Nicholas Van Weerdenburg
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:42:18 +0100, David Heinemeier Hansson <david-OiTZALl8rpK0mm7Ywyx6yg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: > > http://www.rubyonrails.com >It looks very good! I think it would be nice if http://rubyonrails.com worked, too. Right now it just shows the Text Drive page. Sam
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 01:42:18AM +0100, David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:> So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: > > http://www.rubyonrails.comLooks really nice. The only strange thing is if I use the scroll mouse the header moves? Why is a iframe used? But it all looks nice and thats great.> > BTW, a 1-week ban on logo dissidence is in effect. Ending January 4th, > 2005. Until then, I''m really not interested in hearing more about how > you might think Hicks dropped the ball or that something doesn''t align > to your likings.Is there also a smaller version of the logo? Maybe one without the huge railroad thing? I like the ruby design and the colors used.> > Thank you for your cooperation, goodnight!No, thank you, Roeland
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:> So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: > > http://www.rubyonrails.comPlease add ''text-align: right;'' to div#sidebar. If the text aligns with the main body that looks much clearer. Also I think that in the header_backdrop.png image the bottom border below the second gradient should not be as dark. Can''t think of anything else that is non-logo alignment related. :) Other than those: Wonderful work!
In my browser, it looks like there is one navigation list item that isn''t being displayed properly. I''m enclosing a screenshot. I''m using Mac (10.3.6) with Firefox (1.0pre). Cheers, Bryce On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:32:13 +0100, Florian Groß <florgro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> David Heinemeier Hansson wrote: > > > So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: > > > > http://www.rubyonrails.com > > Please add ''text-align: right;'' to div#sidebar. If the text aligns with > the main body that looks much clearer. > > Also I think that in the header_backdrop.png image the bottom border > below the second gradient should not be as dark. > > Can''t think of anything else that is non-logo alignment related. :) > > Other than those: Wonderful work! > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >_______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:> So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: > > http://www.rubyonrails.com > > BTW, a 1-week ban on logo dissidence is in effect. Ending January 4th, > 2005. Until then, I''m really not interested in hearing more about how > you might think Hicks dropped the ball or that something doesn''t align > to your likings. > > Thank you for your cooperation, goodnight! > -- > David Heinemeier Hansson, > http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby > http://macromates.com/ -- TextMate: Code and markup editor (OS X) > http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/railsAwesome new site. One minor thing I found is the spelling of Matz''s name in the far left column under What''s Ruby. He tends to use Yukihiro not Yukihiru. Being a long time follower of Rails I finally decided to try it out and just finished the todo tutorial yesterday. I had a lot of fun and must say that RoR is quite amazing. Thank you for such a great framework, Matt Margolis
bryce benton wrote:> In my browser, it looks like there is one navigation list item that > isn''t being displayed properly. I''m enclosing a screenshot. I''m using > Mac (10.3.6) with Firefox (1.0pre).Ah, interesting. This is caused by a rewrap occuring because the elements don''t fit into one single line. I think this could be fixed by adding an overflow: auto to the main navigation rules.
http://ohericord.free.fr/mockup.jpg a mockup just for fun. (ripoff macrabbit site....my favourite site ever) On Dec 28, 2004, at 5:49 PM, Florian Groß wrote:> bryce benton wrote: > >> In my browser, it looks like there is one navigation list item that >> isn''t being displayed properly. I''m enclosing a screenshot. I''m using >> Mac (10.3.6) with Firefox (1.0pre). > > Ah, interesting. This is caused by a rewrap occuring because the > elements don''t fit into one single line. I think this could be fixed > by adding an overflow: auto to the main navigation rules. > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Excellent! Good work and congratulations to all involved in such a massive challenge. The only thing that I have to actually mention is the fact that the API documentation now displays the nav bar in addition to the frames view, which reduces the screen real estate dramatically ... I think someone was going to work on making the doc generator produce templates that would not be framed, how''s that going if I might ask? Thanks again! /B On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:42:18 +0100, David Heinemeier Hansson <david-OiTZALl8rpK0mm7Ywyx6yg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: > > http://www.rubyonrails.com > > BTW, a 1-week ban on logo dissidence is in effect. Ending January 4th, > 2005. Until then, I''m really not interested in hearing more about how > you might think Hicks dropped the ball or that something doesn''t align > to your likings. > > Thank you for your cooperation, goodnight! > -- > David Heinemeier Hansson, > http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby > http://macromates.com/ -- TextMate: Code and markup editor (OS X) > http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Bruno Mattarollo <bruno.mattarollo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Hi Bruno, You can still access the api without the navbar at http://api.rubyonrails.org/ . Not without the frames, though, dunno how far that effort is going. //jarkko On 29.12.2004, at 01:58, Bruno Mattarollo wrote:> Excellent! Good work and congratulations to all involved in such a > massive challenge. > > The only thing that I have to actually mention is the fact that the > API documentation now displays the nav bar in addition to the frames > view, which reduces the screen real estate dramatically ... I think > someone was going to work on making the doc generator produce > templates that would not be framed, how''s that going if I might ask? > > Thanks again! > > /B > > > On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:42:18 +0100, David Heinemeier Hansson > <david-OiTZALl8rpK0mm7Ywyx6yg@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> So the day finally came to unveil the new logo and website: >> >> http://www.rubyonrails.com >> >> BTW, a 1-week ban on logo dissidence is in effect. Ending January 4th, >> 2005. Until then, I''m really not interested in hearing more about how >> you might think Hicks dropped the ball or that something doesn''t align >> to your likings. >> >> Thank you for your cooperation, goodnight! >> -- >> David Heinemeier Hansson, >> http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management >> http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby >> http://macromates.com/ -- TextMate: Code and markup editor (OS >> X) >> http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> > > > -- > Bruno Mattarollo <bruno.mattarollo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Jarkko Laine http://jlaine.net _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails