Rails - Dec 2004 - Need FreeRIDE Contributors (was FreeRIDE 0.9.2)

Laurent Julliard wrote:
>
> By the way I''d like to make a call for contributors here. FreeRIDE
has
> now reached a point where we need more manpower to make it grow
> faster. The technical foundation is stable now which makes it easier
> for people to get into it and invest time and effort.
This was buried at the end of Laurent''s last post and I wanted to pull
it
out and highlight it...

FreeRIDE is written entirely in Ruby and is 100% plugin based for easy
extension. FreeRIDE has come a long way in the last two years (with Laurent
doing most of the work, and a little bit of help from myself and Rich
Kilmer). Progress has been slow, but steady. All of us would like to see
more features implemented, but we really need more ruby developer''s to
push
this along at a faster clip.

Help to make FreeRIDE *your* IDE... the open source Ruby IDE built by the
ruby community, for the ruby community.

Here are some possible areas in which you could help:

* Rails Support -- I''d love to see an optional plugin that provided
direct
support for developing Rails web applications.

* Project Management -- someone is working on this, but he probably could
use some help.

* Help System -- local help with integrated links to web resources.

* Advanced Editing -- template expansion, code completion.

* Advanced Code Navigation -- for example, right-click on a name and be able
to select "Go to Definition"

* Internationalization

* Scripting -- a super-simple way for a user to create and use tiny ruby
scripts to help automate repetitive operations.

* <insert-your-favorite-ide-feature-here> --
<subscribe-yourself-to-freeride-devel-ML-and-volunteer>

Check it out at:
  http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl

Thanks,
Curt

Curt:

Is there documentation on how to write plugins for FreeRIDE? 

Vincent.

P.S:  What does everyone think about a Smalltalk-like environment for
Ruby?  You know, image-based, a class-browser, code always running,
very tight integration of the language and the tools, etc.?  After
using Squeak, I can''t understand that newer languages still
don''t go
in that direction.


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:54:53 -0600, Curt Hibbs
<curt-fk6st7iWb8MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Laurent Julliard wrote:
> >
> > By the way I''d like to make a call for contributors here.
FreeRIDE has
> > now reached a point where we need more manpower to make it grow
> > faster. The technical foundation is stable now which makes it easier
> > for people to get into it and invest time and effort.
> 
> This was buried at the end of Laurent''s last post and I wanted to
pull it
> out and highlight it...
> 
> FreeRIDE is written entirely in Ruby and is 100% plugin based for easy
> extension. FreeRIDE has come a long way in the last two years (with Laurent
> doing most of the work, and a little bit of help from myself and Rich
> Kilmer). Progress has been slow, but steady. All of us would like to see
> more features implemented, but we really need more ruby
developer''s to push
> this along at a faster clip.
> 
> Help to make FreeRIDE *your* IDE... the open source Ruby IDE built by the
> ruby community, for the ruby community.
> 
> Here are some possible areas in which you could help:
> 
> * Rails Support -- I''d love to see an optional plugin that
provided direct
> support for developing Rails web applications.
> 
> * Project Management -- someone is working on this, but he probably could
> use some help.
> 
> * Help System -- local help with integrated links to web resources.
> 
> * Advanced Editing -- template expansion, code completion.
> 
> * Advanced Code Navigation -- for example, right-click on a name and be
able
> to select "Go to Definition"
> 
> * Internationalization
> 
> * Scripting -- a super-simple way for a user to create and use tiny ruby
> scripts to help automate repetitive operations.
> 
> * <insert-your-favorite-ide-feature-here> --
> <subscribe-yourself-to-freeride-devel-ML-and-volunteer>
> 
> Check it out at:
>   http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl
> 
> Thanks,
> Curt
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Rails mailing list
> Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
> 

-- 
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Vincent Foley wrote:
>
> Curt:
>
> Is there documentation on how to write plugins for FreeRIDE?
Its not as good as it should be, but take a look at the developer
documentation page:

  http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?DevDoc

There is a simple HelloWorld plugin example.

Also, you really have to understand how the databus works (links to databus
documentation are also on that page). The databus is a publish-subscribe
messaging engine that is used for inter-plugin communication (it keeps the
plugins loosely coupled).

Also, someone once posted an awesome testimonial on the power of the databus
and FreeRIDE''s plugin system titled "The coolest thing since
sliced bread".
You can read it here:

  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/freeride-devel/2002-12/msg00017.html

Curt

> Vincent.
>
> P.S:  What does everyone think about a Smalltalk-like environment for
> Ruby?  You know, image-based, a class-browser, code always running,
> very tight integration of the language and the tools, etc.?  After
> using Squeak, I can''t understand that newer languages still
don''t go
> in that direction.
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:54:53 -0600, Curt Hibbs
<curt-fk6st7iWb8MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Laurent Julliard wrote:
> > >
> > > By the way I''d like to make a call for contributors
here. FreeRIDE has
> > > now reached a point where we need more manpower to make it grow
> > > faster. The technical foundation is stable now which makes it
easier
> > > for people to get into it and invest time and effort.
> >
> > This was buried at the end of Laurent''s last post and I
wanted
> to pull it
> > out and highlight it...
> >
> > FreeRIDE is written entirely in Ruby and is 100% plugin based for easy
> > extension. FreeRIDE has come a long way in the last two years
> (with Laurent
> > doing most of the work, and a little bit of help from myself and Rich
> > Kilmer). Progress has been slow, but steady. All of us would like to
see
> > more features implemented, but we really need more ruby
> developer''s to push
> > this along at a faster clip.
> >
> > Help to make FreeRIDE *your* IDE... the open source Ruby IDE
> built by the
> > ruby community, for the ruby community.
> >
> > Here are some possible areas in which you could help:
> >
> > * Rails Support -- I''d love to see an optional plugin that
> provided direct
> > support for developing Rails web applications.
> >
> > * Project Management -- someone is working on this, but he
> probably could
> > use some help.
> >
> > * Help System -- local help with integrated links to web resources.
> >
> > * Advanced Editing -- template expansion, code completion.
> >
> > * Advanced Code Navigation -- for example, right-click on a
> name and be able
> > to select "Go to Definition"
> >
> > * Internationalization
> >
> > * Scripting -- a super-simple way for a user to create and use tiny
ruby
> > scripts to help automate repetitive operations.
> >
> > * <insert-your-favorite-ide-feature-here> --
> > <subscribe-yourself-to-freeride-devel-ML-and-volunteer>
> >
> > Check it out at:
> >   http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Curt
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rails mailing list
> > Rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org
> > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
> >
>
>
> --
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> Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/~gnuvince
> RSS: http://www.livejournal.com/~gnuvince/data/rss
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* Curt Hibbs (curt-fk6st7iWb8MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) [041213
11:27]:
> Its not as good as it should be, but take a look at the developer
> documentation page:
> 
>   http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?DevDoc
> 
> There is a simple HelloWorld plugin example.
Curt, 
Diverging further OT from Rails, is there a FreeBASE-only tarball
available these days?  I was looking last week and had a lot of trouble
trying to track one down.

Rick
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                       |  happy I did.

Rick Bradley wrote:
> Bradley
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:49 AM
> To: rails-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org;
curt-fk6st7iWb8MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> Subject: [OT] Re: [Rails] Need FreeRIDE Contributors (was [ANN] FreeRIDE
> 0.9.2)
>
>
> * Curt Hibbs (curt-fk6st7iWb8MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) [041213 11:27]:
> > Its not as good as it should be, but take a look at the developer
> > documentation page:
> >
> >   http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?DevDoc
> >
> > There is a simple HelloWorld plugin example.
>
> Curt,
> Diverging further OT from Rails, is there a FreeBASE-only tarball
> available these days?  I was looking last week and had a lot of trouble
> trying to track one down.
We don''t post one to the files area, but you can get a dynamically
generated
one from the CVS browser by browsing into the FreeRIDE CVS repository and
then into the freebase subdirectory. There you''ll find a link that
reads
"download tarball". I just did that, here''s the URL:

  http://rubyforge.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/freeride/freebase/freebase.tar.gz
?tarball=1&cvsroot=freeride

For the benefit of those Rails ML subscribers who may not have read all the
way down in my original post, there was a reason why I posted this to the
Rails ML as well as the ruby-talk ML...

Basically, I''d like to add support to FreeRIDE for Rails developers,
and I
posted it here in case someone here would be interested in taking this on.

Curt

* Curt Hibbs (curt-fk6st7iWb8MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) [041213
13:30]:
> I just did that, here''s the URL:
> 
>  
http://rubyforge.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/freeride/freebase/freebase.tar.gz?tarball=1&cvsroot=freeride
Thanks, very much -- that will be very helpful.
> Basically, I''d like to add support to FreeRIDE for Rails
developers, and I
> posted it here in case someone here would be interested in taking this on.
What sort of functionality do you foresee that entailing?  What would a
Rails-enabled FreeRIDE look like?

Rick
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Rick Bradley [mailto:rick-Ox77ft4ZFkGvA6A9f8tRrlozv+8wp+n8@public.gmane.org]On
Behalf Of Rick
>
> * Curt Hibbs (curt-fk6st7iWb8MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) [041213 13:30]:
> > I just did that, here''s the URL:
> >
> >
> http://rubyforge.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/freeride/freebase/freebas
> e.tar.gz?tarball=1&cvsroot=freeride
>
> Thanks, very much -- that will be very helpful.
>
> > Basically, I''d like to add support to FreeRIDE for Rails
> developers, and I
> > posted it here in case someone here would be interested in
> taking this on.
>
> What sort of functionality do you foresee that entailing?  What would a
> Rails-enabled FreeRIDE look like?
I haven''t really spent much time thinking about it yet, but one obvious
thing immediately comes to mind: Add a new top-level "Rails" menu with
a
separate menu item for invoking each of the rails helper scripts (new_model,
new_controller), and then reloading the affected files (if they were open).
Think about the things you do repeatedly that could be automated.

I''m sure the rails developers on this list could come up with some good
suggestions.

Curt

Curt Hibbs wrote:
> Rick Bradley
[mailto:rick-Ox77ft4ZFkGvA6A9f8tRrlozv+8wp+n8@public.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Rick
> 
>>* Curt Hibbs (curt-fk6st7iWb8MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) [041213
13:30]:
>>
>>>I just did that, here''s the URL:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>http://rubyforge.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/freeride/freebase/freebas
>>e.tar.gz?tarball=1&cvsroot=freeride
>>
>>Thanks, very much -- that will be very helpful.
>>
>>
>>>Basically, I''d like to add support to FreeRIDE for Rails
>>
>>developers, and I
>>
>>>posted it here in case someone here would be interested in
>>
>>taking this on.
>>
>>What sort of functionality do you foresee that entailing?  What would a
>>Rails-enabled FreeRIDE look like?
> 
> 
> I haven''t really spent much time thinking about it yet, but one
obvious
> thing immediately comes to mind: Add a new top-level "Rails" menu
with a
> separate menu item for invoking each of the rails helper scripts
(new_model,
> new_controller), and then reloading the affected files (if they were open).
> Think about the things you do repeatedly that could be automated.
> 
> I''m sure the rails developers on this list could come up with some
good
> suggestions.
Support for .rhtml files from the file explorer and syntax highlighting 
for it would be on my wishlist.

-- 
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http://www.epilogit.com           -- Open-source weblogging solution
http://www.standardbehaviour.com  -- Elegance is an indicator for quality

I wish I could create projects and add files to them...

I''d like to be able to syncronize local projects with remote projects 
(over sftp or something)


Marten Veldthuis wrote:
> Curt Hibbs wrote:
> 
>> Rick Bradley
[mailto:rick-Ox77ft4ZFkGvA6A9f8tRrlozv+8wp+n8@public.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Rick
>>
>>> * Curt Hibbs (curt-fk6st7iWb8MAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org) [041213
13:30]:
>>>
>>>> I just did that, here''s the URL:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://rubyforge.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/freeride/freebase/freebas
>>> e.tar.gz?tarball=1&cvsroot=freeride
>>>
>>> Thanks, very much -- that will be very helpful.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Basically, I''d like to add support to FreeRIDE for
Rails
>>>
>>>
>>> developers, and I
>>>
>>>> posted it here in case someone here would be interested in
>>>
>>>
>>> taking this on.
>>>
>>> What sort of functionality do you foresee that entailing?  What
would a
>>> Rails-enabled FreeRIDE look like?
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven''t really spent much time thinking about it yet, but
one obvious
>> thing immediately comes to mind: Add a new top-level "Rails"
menu with a
>> separate menu item for invoking each of the rails helper scripts 
>> (new_model,
>> new_controller), and then reloading the affected files (if they were 
>> open).
>> Think about the things you do repeatedly that could be automated.
>>
>> I''m sure the rails developers on this list could come up with
some good
>> suggestions.
> 
> 
> Support for .rhtml files from the file explorer and syntax highlighting 
> for it would be on my wishlist.
>

Add a link to error pages to open the relavent source file(s).

Nicholas Seckar wrote:
>
> Add a link to error pages to open the relavent source file(s).
These (and the others) are all good ideas. Keep them coming... I''m
collecting them!

Thanks,
Curt