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It''s been down for days. It''s very frustrating, as I really want to start using this library. I might have to find a different one :( I really don''t want to, but a library without documentation is rather useless. On Apr 4, 6:41 am, c3 <cthre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> The script.aculo.us website is broken. Links to wiki.* go nowhere.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Well, it''s over. I''ve had enough of this little game. I can''t access the documentation for this library, and like I said before, a library without documentation is worthless. From the looks of the posts in this group, the documentation is almost always offline. Sorry, this is a no-go. I''m gonna try out mootools. Scriptaculous looks like it would have been awesome, probably the best out there. But I simply can''t use it if the documentation is not going to be available. Good luck to everyone. On Apr 4, 6:41 am, c3 <cthre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> The script.aculo.us website is broken. Links to wiki.* go nowhere.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Perhaps Thomas is on vacation :) Intermittent outage and slow customer service is one of the potential perils of an open source community. I''m not sure to whom you are sorry, but you can check out these resources that google turned up: Book on Scriptaculous (PDF copy is constantly updated) http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cppsu Offline docs (as recent as wiki) http://www.m3nt0r.de/blog/scriptaculous-offline-docs/ Introductions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script.aculo.us http://24ways.org/2005/introduction-to-scriptaculous-effects Cheat sheets http://slash7.com/articles/2006/04/22/scriptaculous-cheat-sheet-1 On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:27 PM, ErichTheWebGuy <erichthewebguy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Well, it''s over. I''ve had enough of this little game. > > I can''t access the documentation for this library, and like I said > before, a library without documentation is worthless. From the looks > of the posts in this group, the documentation is almost always > offline. > > Sorry, this is a no-go. I''m gonna try out mootools. > > Scriptaculous looks like it would have been awesome, probably the best > out there. But I simply can''t use it if the documentation is not going > to be available. > > Good luck to everyone. > > > On Apr 4, 6:41 am, c3 <cthre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > The script.aculo.us website is broken. Links to wiki.* go nowhere. > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I get that this is an open source project, trust me, I am a fellow open source developer. :) However, a quick search of this group reveals that there is a massive problem with the documentation, that has been going on for many months. There are plenty of free services out there that have far, far better uptime. Trust me, it''s not hard to sign up for a sourceforge account.> I''m not sure to whom you are sorryI guess to the community. This looks like the best library out there, but it''s so dang frustrating not to be able to use it to its full extent. As far as the other links you provided, I''ve looked at those.> Book on ScriptaculousProbably the best option. Maybe I''ll look into it more in the future.> Offline docs (as recent as wiki)http://www.m3nt0r.de/blog/scriptaculous-offline-docs/Those are almost a year old. Not updated since last June. Is that really the last time the docs wiki was updated?!> Introductions > Cheat sheetsI am trying to go far deeper than that. I may have come off as a little harsh, and if so, I apologize. But you can imagine my frustration with not being able to access the docs for days on end, then read many posts on this group that make it clear that it''s been a problem for months. On Apr 4, 11:02 pm, "Ken Snyder" <kendsny...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Perhaps Thomas is on vacation :) Intermittent outage and slow > customer service is one of the potential perils of an open source > community. > > I''m not sure to whom you are sorry, but you can check out these > resources that google turned up: > > Book on Scriptaculous (PDF copy is constantly updated)http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cppsu > > Offline docs (as recent as wiki)http://www.m3nt0r.de/blog/scriptaculous-offline-docs/ > > Introductionshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script.aculo.ushttp://24ways.org/2005/introduction-to-scriptaculous-effects > > Cheat sheetshttp://slash7.com/articles/2006/04/22/scriptaculous-cheat-sheet-1 > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:27 PM, ErichTheWebGuy > > <erichtheweb...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Well, it''s over. I''ve had enough of this little game. > > > I can''t access the documentation for this library, and like I said > > before, a library without documentation is worthless. From the looks > > of the posts in this group, the documentation is almost always > > offline. > > > Sorry, this is a no-go. I''m gonna try out mootools. > > > Scriptaculous looks like it would have been awesome, probably the best > > out there. But I simply can''t use it if the documentation is not going > > to be available. > > > Good luck to everyone. > > > On Apr 4, 6:41 am, c3 <cthre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > The script.aculo.us website is broken. Links to wiki.* go nowhere.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM, ErichTheWebGuy <erichthewebguy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Offline docs (as recent as wiki)http://www.m3nt0r.de/blog/scriptaculous-offline-docs/ > Those are almost a year old. Not updated since last June. Is that > really the last time the docs wiki was updated?! > > > Introductions > > Cheat sheets > I am trying to go far deeper than that. > > I may have come off as a little harsh, and if so, I apologize. But you > can imagine my frustration with not being able to access the docs for > days on end, then read many posts on this group that make it clear > that it''s been a problem for months.No problem :) Yes the api and the wiki have been basically the same for at least a year. I''m not sure what deep documentation you might need, there are not a lot of power-user tricks to find. You might check out http://scripteka.com which is a repository of libraries and effects that build on Scriptaculous. For example, there you can find a fish-eye effect class, lightbox classes and tooltip classes. Feel free to ask questions here--even more general questions like "How would I use draggables to accomplish X". - Ken Snyder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> the api and the wiki have been basically the same for at least a > year.With that in mind, I find it rather confusing that you said that the "PDF copy is constantly updated" with the Scriptaculous book.> I''m not sure what deep documentation you might needWell, I''m not sure either. I haven''t seen the documentation, so who knows how deep I could go? However, when you say "introduction" and "cheat-sheet" you can see how I might think that those are only basics, and leave a great deal out. Which they evidently do.> Feel free to ask questions here--even more general questions like "How > would I use draggables to accomplish X".I would, but I hope you would understand that my clients will likely be less than understanding if I have to say to them, "Sorry, I can''t finish your project on time, because the documentation I need has been offline for days, and I am waiting for someone on Google Groups to answer my question." Thank you for your responses, but unfortunately, it seems like Scriptaculous has not reached the level of maturity that I am looking for. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:40:12PM -0700, ErichTheWebGuy wrote: [...]> I would, but I hope you would understand that my clients will likely > be less than understanding if I have to say to them, "Sorry, I can''t > finish your project on time, because the documentation I need has been > offline for days, and I am waiting for someone on Google Groups to > answer my question." > > Thank you for your responses, but unfortunately, it seems like > Scriptaculous has not reached the level of maturity that I am looking > for.You have some logical fallacies and misapprehensions going on there. First I''ll list them out, then I''ll address them. 1) unavailable documentation implies an inability to work with the library 2) the wiki being down implies that the wiki documentation is unavailable 3) the wiki documentation is the only documentation for Scriptaculous 4) downtime of one machine implies anything at all about the maturity of the library Now, on to rebuttal. First, I was distressed that the wiki was down and I was unable to get to the documentation I was used to using. I had work to do, though, so I read the source. Yup, what with it being an open source project and all, the source is right out there for you to read. Furthermore, since it is not only based on Prototype code but also style, and the Prototype documentation is up and running, it was no problem to figure out what I needed to do. So, yeah, while it may be easier to quick look something up on the wiki, it''s not that much harder to read the source and figure it out. So much for #1. As for #2, remember that anything on the web is never really gone. Google has it cached, for one, and the Wayback Machine has the whole site (though, granted, from no more recently than July of 2007): http://web.archive.org/web/20070709235615rn_2/wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/ Other have already mentioned the various other documentation resources for Scriptaculous, so I think it''s pretty clear that #3 is right out. I will also point out, as I have elsewhere concerning other open source projects, that you are no more entitled to free documentation than you are entitled to the functionality provided by the free code. It''s a gift from a group of authors. If they only give you the gift of functionality, you may decline that gift but you are in no position to demand that they also provide free documentation. If you are too cheap to buy the previously mentioned book <http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cppsu> then you rely on whatever you can Google or read in the source. Always keep in mind that it''s all a gift. Finally, concerning #4, the wiki is not implemented in JavaScript and its downtime is completely unrelated to the maturity of the Scriptaculous library. Why would you even imagine that there is a connection to be made there? There''s some guy who didn''t invest in five nines of availability for a machine running a wiki. Not only is he not (solely) responsible for the library itself, his sysadmin interest and skills are unrelated to his JS programming interest and skills. I''m completely baffled by this one. Anyway, feel free to use whatever you want to use. Don''t imagine that your departure, especially on such logically weak grounds, is of great concern to the Prototype/Scriptaculous community at large. --Greg --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Nice try. Your post is well thought out, and surely it took a great deal of time and effort. Kudos. However, it''s not my intent to debate anyone. I get that I''m not "entitled" to any documentation. I know I could read the source. But, I would rather not go through the hassle when I don''t have to. Mootools looks every bit as good as scriptaculous, and it has working documentation. This has been going on for months, and noone here sees it as a problem? Wow. Just wow. Anyway, good luck to all. I''m not trying to rain on your parade, just trying to vent my frustrations. :) On Apr 5, 9:18 am, Gregory Seidman <gsslist +protot...-dNXPQ6k9rNiG6BJUYyje5axOck334EZe@public.gmane.org> wrote:> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:40:12PM -0700, ErichTheWebGuy wrote: > > [...] > > > I would, but I hope you would understand that my clients will likely > > be less than understanding if I have to say to them, "Sorry, I can''t > > finish your project on time, because the documentation I need has been > > offline for days, and I am waiting for someone on Google Groups to > > answer my question." > > > Thank you for your responses, but unfortunately, it seems like > > Scriptaculous has not reached the level of maturity that I am looking > > for. > > You have some logical fallacies and misapprehensions going on there. First > I''ll list them out, then I''ll address them. > > 1) unavailable documentation implies an inability to work with the library > 2) the wiki being down implies that the wiki documentation is unavailable > 3) the wiki documentation is the only documentation for Scriptaculous > 4) downtime of one machine implies anything at all about the maturity of the > library > > Now, on to rebuttal. > > First, I was distressed that the wiki was down and I was unable to get to > the documentation I was used to using. I had work to do, though, so I read > the source. Yup, what with it being an open source project and all, the > source is right out there for you to read. Furthermore, since it is not > only based on Prototype code but also style, and the Prototype > documentation is up and running, it was no problem to figure out what I > needed to do. So, yeah, while it may be easier to quick look something up > on the wiki, it''s not that much harder to read the source and figure it > out. So much for #1. > > As for #2, remember that anything on the web is never really gone. Google > has it cached, for one, and the Wayback Machine has the whole site (though, > granted, from no more recently than July of 2007):http://web.archive.org/web/20070709235615rn_2/wiki.script.aculo.us/sc... > > Other have already mentioned the various other documentation resources for > Scriptaculous, so I think it''s pretty clear that #3 is right out. I will > also point out, as I have elsewhere concerning other open source projects, > that you are no more entitled to free documentation than you are entitled > to the functionality provided by the free code. It''s a gift from a group of > authors. If they only give you the gift of functionality, you may decline > that gift but you are in no position to demand that they also provide free > documentation. If you are too cheap to buy the previously mentioned book > <http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cppsu> then you rely on whatever you can > Google or read in the source. Always keep in mind that it''s all a gift. > > Finally, concerning #4, the wiki is not implemented in JavaScript and its > downtime is completely unrelated to the maturity of the Scriptaculous > library. Why would you even imagine that there is a connection to be made > there? There''s some guy who didn''t invest in five nines of availability > for a machine running a wiki. Not only is he not (solely) responsible for > the library itself, his sysadmin interest and skills are unrelated to his > JS programming interest and skills. I''m completely baffled by this one. > > Anyway, feel free to use whatever you want to use. Don''t imagine that your > departure, especially on such logically weak grounds, is of great concern > to the Prototype/Scriptaculous community at large. > > --Greg--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> > Book on Scriptaculous >The prag-prog book is, I''m very sad to say, not so good. For example I wanted to make a div appear to slide down. The book told me to use the SlideDown effect, great, but it offered not a single example nor did it document a single option. I ended up having to read the source to figure it out. Kinda weak which is unusual for a prog prog book, I have many. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Really. How interesting. Thanks for the heads up. I''ll not waste my money now. Not because I am "cheap" like someone else suggested, but because I am not fond of giving away my money for nothing in return. I''d rather not use this group to promote something else, but seriously, try mootools. Its documentation is great, the people on the forums are most helpful, and it''s like 25% the size of prototype/ scriptaculous (64.5K vs. 263K (121.1K for prototype and 141.9K for scriptaculous). On Apr 5, 3:34 pm, c3 <cthre...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > Book on Scriptaculous > > The prag-prog book is, I''m very sad to say, not so good. For example I > wanted to make a div appear to slide down. The book told me to use the > SlideDown effect, great, but it offered not a single example nor did > it document a single option. I ended up having to read the source to > figure it out. Kinda weak which is unusual for a prog prog book, I > have many.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
c3 a écrit :> The prag-prog book is, I''m very sad to say, not so good. For example I > wanted to make a div appear to slide down. The book told me to use the > SlideDown effect, great, but it offered not a single example nor did > it document a single option. I ended up having to read the source toHey, I''m sorry the book didn''t cut it for you, but I can''t let that pass. The book documents every single option available, for every effect; it''s just that many combined effects (including SlideDown) do not have any specific option, and "common" options are all explained in detail (from p.258), and every aspect of calling an effect is demo''d elsewhere in the chapter (from p.250 for the basics and the core effects with their options, and after the combined effects list for "advanced" features such as effect queues). Indeed, the "combined" effects do not have individual demos, for several reasons: first, most of them would be difficult to "render on paper". Second, the code for them is usually a one-liner identical to every effect call in the other examples. The chapter referred to Scripty''s wiki combined demo page, which is now, indeed, down :-( You can find an alternate version of it (which I prefer, too) in the code for my presentation last July at The Ajax Experience West: http://tddsworld.com/script.aculo.us-demos.zip Again, I''m sorry that you did not find what you wanted in the chapter, but what you''re saying here is patently false… Cheers, -- Christophe Porteneuve aka TDD tdd-x+CfDp/qHev2eFz/2MeuCQ@public.gmane.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 06 Apr 2008, at 12:23, Christophe Porteneuve wrote:>> The prag-prog book is, I''m very sad to say, not so good. For >> example I >> wanted to make a div appear to slide down. The book told me to use >> the >> SlideDown effect, great, but it offered not a single example nor did >> it document a single option. I ended up having to read the source to > > Hey, > > I''m sorry the book didn''t cut it for you, but I can''t let that pass. > The book documents every single option available, for every effect; > it''s > just that many combined effects (including SlideDown) do not have any > specific option, and "common" options are all explained in detail > (from > p.258), and every aspect of calling an effect is demo''d elsewhere in > the > chapter (from p.250 for the basics and the core effects with their > options, and after the combined effects list for "advanced" features > such as effect queues). > > Indeed, the "combined" effects do not have individual demos, for > several > reasons: first, most of them would be difficult to "render on paper". > Second, the code for them is usually a one-liner identical to every > effect call in the other examples. > > The chapter referred to Scripty''s wiki combined demo page, which is > now, > indeed, down :-( You can find an alternate version of it (which I > prefer, too) in the code for my presentation last July at The Ajax > Experience West: > > http://tddsworld.com/script.aculo.us-demos.zip > > Again, I''m sorry that you did not find what you wanted in the chapter, > but what you''re saying here is patently false…Indeed, I agree 100% with Christophe, the book is great. It seems you are just looking for some prechewed code to do some fancy effect on your website, that''s not what the book is about. The book is on how you should use a javascript library, in this case P&S, to make your own custom objects. Animation is part of it, but there''s a lot more to it. Christophe''s book has everything in there that you need, as long as you know your way around Javascript and its OO way of doing things already and just want to get a hang of how well the library will speed up your development. Best regards Peter De Berdt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
For someone who has "TheWebGuy" in there alias, and refers to himself as a "web development ninja" (see http://www.erichthewebguy.com/?p=17), you sure didn''t spend a second on google. After a 1 second, I kid you not, 1 second search on google for "Scriptaculous PDF" the top three results were: http://mir.aculo.us/2007/6/12/script-aculo-us-chm-and-pdf-offline-documention http://slash7.com/cheats/scriptaculous_fx1.pdf http://mir.aculo.us/2007/6/12/script-aculo-us-chm-and-pdf-offline-documention (this is the author of Scriptaculous''s blog) I have never had a problem with the Scriptaculous'' wiki. jQuery also uses a wiki format for their documentation: http://docs.jquery.com/Main_Page The wiki seems to be back up now :) From what I have read, some of the MooTools community may not have the patience for a dev of your quality. http://ajaxian.com/archives/moo-on-us-survey-update http://dev.mootools.net/ticket/632 I wish your "clients" the best of luck. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I certainly did. Had you taken the time to read this list, you would have discovered that I got both documents you refer to (two of your results point to the same place). I''ve said before that I didn''t mean to come across as being harsh, and I even apologized. That you came to my blog and fired off a flame in the comments shows me a lot about your level of maturity. With that, why don''t we all agree to disagree, and let this thread die. The wiki is back up, so we can resume normal operations. :) On Apr 6, 10:02 am, jdalton <John.David.Dal...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> For someone who has "TheWebGuy" in there alias, and refers to himself > as a "web development ninja" (seehttp://www.erichthewebguy.com/?p=17), > you sure didn''t spend a second on google. > > After a 1 second, I kid you not, 1 second search on google for > "Scriptaculous PDF" the top three results were: > > http://mir.aculo.us/2007/6/12/script-aculo-us-chm-and-pdf-offline-doc...http://slash7.com/cheats/scriptaculous_fx1.pdfhttp://mir.aculo.us/2007/6/12/script-aculo-us-chm-and-pdf-offline-doc... > (this is the author of Scriptaculous''s blog) > > I have never had a problem with the Scriptaculous'' wiki. > jQuery also uses a wiki format for their documentation:http://docs.jquery.com/Main_Page > > The wiki seems to be back up now :) > From what I have read, some of the MooTools community may not have the > patience for a dev of your quality.http://ajaxian.com/archives/moo-on-us-survey-updatehttp://dev.mootools.net/ticket/632 > > I wish your "clients" the best of luck.--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I am sorry, I believe you are mistaken, I haven''t commented on your blog. From reading your latest blog post though, I think I will take your apology with a rather large grain of salt. Anyway happy coding :) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi all, I''ve made a static export of the wiki available at http://script.aculo.us/docs/ The next version of scripty will come with a completely new documentation-- stay tuned! For this reason, and because Stikipad seems abandoned (and doesn''t answer support requests...), I want to give up supporting the wiki. Is there anyone who wants to take the export, give it back it''s CSS styling, remove any Spam, make the JS examples work and provide all of that as a set of static HTML files? Pretty please, with sugar on top? :) We can put that up then and turn off the wiki completely. Thomas On 06.04.2008, at 21:05, jdalton wrote:> > I am sorry, I believe you are mistaken, I haven''t commented on your > blog. > From reading your latest blog post though, I think I will take your > apology with a rather large grain of salt. > > Anyway happy coding :) > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Not that I think I''ll have time to work on it, but... Would it help to put it in SVN? That way changes can be made incrementally. TAG On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Thomas Fuchs wrote:> > Hi all, > > I''ve made a static export of the wiki available at > http://script.aculo.us/docs/ > > The next version of scripty will come with a completely new > documentation-- stay tuned! > For this reason, and because Stikipad seems abandoned (and doesn''t > answer support requests...), I want to give up supporting the wiki. > > Is there anyone who wants to take the export, give it back it''s CSS > styling, remove any Spam, make the JS examples work and provide all of > that as a set of static HTML files? Pretty please, with sugar on > top? :) We can put that up then and turn off the wiki completely. > > Thomas > > On 06.04.2008, at 21:05, jdalton wrote: >> >> I am sorry, I believe you are mistaken, I haven''t commented on your >> blog. >> From reading your latest blog post though, I think I will take your >> apology with a rather large grain of salt. >> >> Anyway happy coding :) >> >>> > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
brianw1975-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
2008-Apr-07 17:28 UTC
Re: wiki.script.aculo.us is broken
huge +1 On 4/7/08, Tom Gregory <tomg-PGZyUNKar/Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Not that I think I''ll have time to work on it, but... > > Would it help to put it in SVN? That way changes can be made > incrementally. > > > TAG > > On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Thomas Fuchs wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I''ve made a static export of the wiki available at > > http://script.aculo.us/docs/ > > > > The next version of scripty will come with a completely new > > documentation-- stay tuned! > > For this reason, and because Stikipad seems abandoned (and doesn''t > > answer support requests...), I want to give up supporting the wiki. > > > > Is there anyone who wants to take the export, give it back it''s CSS > > styling, remove any Spam, make the JS examples work and provide all of > > that as a set of static HTML files? Pretty please, with sugar on > > top? :) We can put that up then and turn off the wiki completely. > > > > Thomas > > > > On 06.04.2008, at 21:05, jdalton wrote: > >> > >> I am sorry, I believe you are mistaken, I haven''t commented on your > >> blog. > >> From reading your latest blog post though, I think I will take your > >> apology with a rather large grain of salt. > >> > >> Anyway happy coding :) > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
The wiki appears to be working again. On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:22 AM, Thomas Fuchs wrote:> > Hi all, > > I''ve made a static export of the wiki available at > http://script.aculo.us/docs/ > > The next version of scripty will come with a completely new > documentation-- stay tuned! > For this reason, and because Stikipad seems abandoned (and doesn''t > answer support requests...), I want to give up supporting the wiki. > > Is there anyone who wants to take the export, give it back it''s CSS > styling, remove any Spam, make the JS examples work and provide all of > that as a set of static HTML files? Pretty please, with sugar on > top? :) We can put that up then and turn off the wiki completely. > > Thomas > > On 06.04.2008, at 21:05, jdalton wrote: >> >> I am sorry, I believe you are mistaken, I haven''t commented on your >> blog. >> From reading your latest blog post though, I think I will take your >> apology with a rather large grain of salt. >> >> Anyway happy coding :) >> >>> > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Yeah, the API docs will be in git for scripty 2. For the documentation site-- this is still in the works. I want to get away from the wiki form, and rather recruit some documentation writers. Volunteers welcome :) Best, Thomas On 07.04.2008, at 19:28, brianw1975-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:> > huge +1 > > On 4/7/08, Tom Gregory <tomg-PGZyUNKar/Q@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> >> Not that I think I''ll have time to work on it, but... >> >> Would it help to put it in SVN? That way changes can be made >> incrementally. >> >> >> TAG >> >> On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Thomas Fuchs wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I''ve made a static export of the wiki available at >>> http://script.aculo.us/docs/ >>> >>> The next version of scripty will come with a completely new >>> documentation-- stay tuned! >>> For this reason, and because Stikipad seems abandoned (and doesn''t >>> answer support requests...), I want to give up supporting the wiki. >>> >>> Is there anyone who wants to take the export, give it back it''s CSS >>> styling, remove any Spam, make the JS examples work and provide >>> all of >>> that as a set of static HTML files? Pretty please, with sugar on >>> top? :) We can put that up then and turn off the wiki completely. >>> >>> Thomas >>> >>> On 06.04.2008, at 21:05, jdalton wrote: >>>> >>>> I am sorry, I believe you are mistaken, I haven''t commented on your >>>> blog. >>>> From reading your latest blog post though, I think I will take your >>>> apology with a rather large grain of salt. >>>> >>>> Anyway happy coding :) >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Thomas, Some very generic CSS styling for you that is similar to the original wiki styling. You''ll have to come up with the script to add the <link> tag. TAG --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Thomas Fuchs wrote:> > Hi all, > > I''ve made a static export of the wiki available at > http://script.aculo.us/docs/ > > The next version of scripty will come with a completely new > documentation-- stay tuned! > For this reason, and because Stikipad seems abandoned (and doesn''t > answer support requests...), I want to give up supporting the wiki. > > Is there anyone who wants to take the export, give it back it''s CSS > styling, remove any Spam, make the JS examples work and provide all of > that as a set of static HTML files? Pretty please, with sugar on > top? :) We can put that up then and turn off the wiki completely. > > Thomas > > On 06.04.2008, at 21:05, jdalton wrote: >> >> I am sorry, I believe you are mistaken, I haven''t commented on your >> blog. >> From reading your latest blog post though, I think I will take your >> apology with a rather large grain of salt. >> >> Anyway happy coding :) >> >>> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs- > unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- >
I figured this topic needed a "bump" since April 7th :^] On Apr 7, 8:22 am, Thomas Fuchs <tho...-9D208sng4xU@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi all, > > I''ve made a static export of the wiki available athttp://script.aculo.us/docs/ > > The next version of scripty will come with a completely new > documentation-- stay tuned! > For this reason, and because Stikipad seems abandoned (and doesn''t > answer support requests...), I want to give up supporting the wiki. > > Is there anyone who wants to take the export, give it back it''s CSS > styling, remove any Spam, make the JS examples work and provide all of > that as a set of static HTML files? Pretty please, with sugar on > top? :) We can put that up then and turn off the wiki completely. > > Thomas > > On 06.04.2008, at 21:05, jdalton wrote: > > > > > I am sorry, I believe you are mistaken, I haven''t commented on your > > blog. > > From reading your latest blog post though, I think I will take your > > apology with a rather large grain of salt. > > > Anyway happy coding :)--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---